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Title: Newly discovered Zapruder frame... with the face of a woman!
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 20, 2025, 06:46:06 PM
I've noticed after decades of looking at the assassination films, that there are reflections and foreground images in the Zapruder film that have never been seen because the images are either washed out or altered in some way.

This is a foreground image of a woman's face that Zapruder's camera picked up. She appears to be African-American... from between the Pergola and the fence... It is the VERY LAST frame of The Sixth Floor Museum copy of the Zapruder film.

The first copy below is the full frame, to see if you can see the image in the upper right...
The second image below isolates the face to help you see the face...
The last image enhances the image of the face with a few highlights and outlines...


(https://i.ibb.co/Rk8pSSLc/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-1-31-15-PM.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/r2t1YxXt/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-1-16-32-PM.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/0pFm5ZcD/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-1-16-10-PM.png)



Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Royell Storing on June 20, 2025, 07:04:29 PM
  If in the background we are seeing the N-S Picket Fence, her head as outlined is far too large.
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 20, 2025, 07:09:46 PM
  If in the background we are seeing the N-S Picket Fence, her head as outlined is far to large.

All foreground images will appear much, much larger than anything in the frame, the middleground or background...

The fact is this is a face that shows up on the film...


(https://i.ibb.co/k2TrdTQB/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-2-08-34-PM.png)

Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Royell Storing on June 20, 2025, 07:14:37 PM

    As outlined, her head is as tall as the picket fence. Not possible.
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 20, 2025, 08:13:02 PM
    As outlined, her head is as tall as the picket fence. Not possible.

Perspective is not that much an issue in this case... it is a woman... that is the main point... and she was likely very close to Zapruder and Sitzman, perhaps near the bench or far to the right... and may very well be the African-American woman Sitzman said she saw in the area...

Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Royell Storing on June 20, 2025, 10:08:06 PM

  I have never bought into the Sitzman account of a black couple sitting on the bench. Anyone/Couple sitting on that bench would have had their upper torso visible above the short wall. This would have been captured on Willis 5, Moorman, etc. I believe that Sitzman possibly saw a couple sitting there Before the JFK Limo came down Elm St and she mentally screwed up her when she saw that couple there. Some people are just not very good with respect to "time". This also goes for witnesses time stamping the elapsed time for shots fired, time between shots, etc. 
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 20, 2025, 10:46:43 PM
I'm not trying to affirm or deny Sitzman's testimony in this regard...
There is a woman's face in the foreground at the very end of the Zapruder film that appears to have African-American features, and this has never been mentioned before...


(https://i.ibb.co/JW4DKzZs/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-5-44-50-PM.png)
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Royell Storing on June 20, 2025, 11:46:18 PM

  That alleged "face" is at the same level as Zapruder's camera. Are you claiming this "face" was a 3rd person standing on the Zapruder Perch?
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 21, 2025, 12:04:24 AM

Zapruder's camera was angled down toward the motorcade...

There is an image of a woman's face at the end of the Zapruder film... It has never been seen or mentioned before. Whether she was standing on a box, a bench, or was 7-feet tall... has less significance than the fact that she is there...
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Tom Graves on June 21, 2025, 12:20:42 AM
[...]

Dear Jake "Eagle Eye" Maxwell,

Do you take a lot of LSD by any chance?

-- Tom
Title: Re: For Royell: Newly discovered Zapruder frame...
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 21, 2025, 04:50:51 PM
  That alleged "face" is at the same level as Zapruder's camera. Are you claiming this "face" was a 3rd person standing on the Zapruder Perch?

She was much closer than the picket fence for sure...
She might have stood up on the wall or bench or something else...
But she is present in the film...
THAT is the issue that needs to be explained...
Title: Re: Newly discovered Zapruder frame... with the face of a woman!
Post by: Royell Storing on June 21, 2025, 06:50:42 PM
 
 If you look at the Couch Film, there is a point where Couch pans to his right while riding inside Camera Car #3. When Couch does this, ("pan to the right), he accidentally captures a part of the head/face of the camera man sitting next to him. This is why I previously asked you about this woman possibly being a 3rd person standing on the pedestal. That is how close to Zapruder she needs to be to even consider what you're throwing out there.
Title: Re: Newly discovered Zapruder frame... with the face of a woman!
Post by: Jake Maxwell on June 21, 2025, 07:37:20 PM

 If you look at the Couch Film, there is a point where Couch pans to his right while riding inside Camera Car #3. When Couch does this, ("pan to the right), he accidentally captures a part of the head/face of the camera man sitting next to him. This is why I previously asked you about this woman possibly being a 3rd person standing on the pedestal. That is how close to Zapruder she needs to be to even consider what you're throwing out there.

That is interesting… Very possibly on the pedestal…