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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Jake Maxwell on June 20, 2025, 06:46:06 PM
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I've noticed after decades of looking at the assassination films, that there are reflections and foreground images in the Zapruder film that have never been seen because the images are either washed out or altered in some way.
This is a foreground image of a woman's face that Zapruder's camera picked up. She appears to be African-American... from between the Pergola and the fence... It is the VERY LAST frame of The Sixth Floor Museum copy of the Zapruder film.
The first copy below is the full frame, to see if you can see the image in the upper right...
The second image below isolates the face to help you see the face...
The last image enhances the image of the face with a few highlights and outlines...
(https://i.ibb.co/Rk8pSSLc/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-1-31-15-PM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/r2t1YxXt/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-1-16-32-PM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/0pFm5ZcD/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-1-16-10-PM.png)
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If in the background we are seeing the N-S Picket Fence, her head as outlined is far too large.
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If in the background we are seeing the N-S Picket Fence, her head as outlined is far to large.
All foreground images will appear much, much larger than anything in the frame, the middleground or background...
The fact is this is a face that shows up on the film...
(https://i.ibb.co/k2TrdTQB/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-2-08-34-PM.png)
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As outlined, her head is as tall as the picket fence. Not possible.
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As outlined, her head is as tall as the picket fence. Not possible.
Perspective is not that much an issue in this case... it is a woman... that is the main point... and she was likely very close to Zapruder and Sitzman, perhaps near the bench or far to the right... and may very well be the African-American woman Sitzman said she saw in the area...
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I have never bought into the Sitzman account of a black couple sitting on the bench. Anyone/Couple sitting on that bench would have had their upper torso visible above the short wall. This would have been captured on Willis 5, Moorman, etc. I believe that Sitzman possibly saw a couple sitting there Before the JFK Limo came down Elm St and she mentally screwed up her when she saw that couple there. Some people are just not very good with respect to "time". This also goes for witnesses time stamping the elapsed time for shots fired, time between shots, etc.
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I'm not trying to affirm or deny Sitzman's testimony in this regard...
There is a woman's face in the foreground at the very end of the Zapruder film that appears to have African-American features, and this has never been mentioned before...
(https://i.ibb.co/JW4DKzZs/Screenshot-2025-06-20-at-5-44-50-PM.png)
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That alleged "face" is at the same level as Zapruder's camera. Are you claiming this "face" was a 3rd person standing on the Zapruder Perch?
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Zapruder's camera was angled down toward the motorcade...
There is an image of a woman's face at the end of the Zapruder film... It has never been seen or mentioned before. Whether she was standing on a box, a bench, or was 7-feet tall... has less significance than the fact that she is there...
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Dear Jake "Eagle Eye" Maxwell,
Do you take a lot of LSD by any chance?
-- Tom
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That alleged "face" is at the same level as Zapruder's camera. Are you claiming this "face" was a 3rd person standing on the Zapruder Perch?
She was much closer than the picket fence for sure...
She might have stood up on the wall or bench or something else...
But she is present in the film...
THAT is the issue that needs to be explained...
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If you look at the Couch Film, there is a point where Couch pans to his right while riding inside Camera Car #3. When Couch does this, ("pan to the right), he accidentally captures a part of the head/face of the camera man sitting next to him. This is why I previously asked you about this woman possibly being a 3rd person standing on the pedestal. That is how close to Zapruder she needs to be to even consider what you're throwing out there.
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If you look at the Couch Film, there is a point where Couch pans to his right while riding inside Camera Car #3. When Couch does this, ("pan to the right), he accidentally captures a part of the head/face of the camera man sitting next to him. This is why I previously asked you about this woman possibly being a 3rd person standing on the pedestal. That is how close to Zapruder she needs to be to even consider what you're throwing out there.
That is interesting… Very possibly on the pedestal…
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Here she is... image squeezed slightly...
(https://i.ibb.co/qMNN1yhM/Screenshot-2025-07-30-at-5-35-10-PM.png)
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Jake, having stood on Zapruder's perch myself, the perspective of the apparent 'face' is completely wrong. The 'face' appears to be level with the camera, so she would have been seven foot tall (or stood on a box)!! 'She' also would have to be standing right next to to Zapruder at the time. Neither of those two scenarios are supportable and I believe this is another case of pareidolia - seeing human-like features that aren't actually there....
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Jake, having stood on Zapruder's perch myself, the perspective of the apparent 'face' is completely wrong. The 'face' appears to be level with the camera, so she would have been seven foot tall (or stood on a box)!! 'She' also would have to be standing right next to to Zapruder at the time. Neither of those two scenarios are supportable and I believe this is another case of pareidolia - seeing human-like features that aren't actually there....
Sorry to disagree, but the definition and African-American features of the face in this frame are too distinct. In fact, they are more distinct than those in most of the images of Jack and Jackie!
Not pareidolia at all, and that condition is very real... But those who don't see it might have pattern blindness or perceptual agnosia... and that condition is very real.
So, in my opinion, the better approach is to ask why this distinct image is on the film... and then try to determine who might it be and how she fits into the best assassination narrative...
(https://i.ibb.co/hJPvVDVr/Screenshot-2025-08-01-at-7-57-00-PM.png)
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Guys-admittedly I'm a whole lot bigger than Zapruder or any woman likely to be standing on that perch - but believe me when I say that there is no way 3 people could stand on it safely and stock still while Zapruder filmed his sequence.
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Guys-admittedly I'm a whole lot bigger than Zapruder or any woman likely to be standing on that perch - but believe me when I say that there is no way 3 people could stand on it safely and stock still while Zapruder filmed his sequence.
1) There is a frame at the end of Zapruder's film that has the face of an African-American woman...
2) Zapruder was using a ZOOM camera...
3) Not sure anyone has ever seen, or mentioned this before...
(https://i.ibb.co/qMNN1yhM/Screenshot-2025-07-30-at-5-35-10-PM.png)