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Title: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Frank Beard on June 19, 2025, 08:03:02 PM
I’ve read his account and tried to place where he was.
I couldn’t find a spot where he could have seen anything.
The freeway seems to be too far away and the view is obscured.

Has anyone looked into this?
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Royell Storing on June 19, 2025, 09:19:03 PM

  I think Hoffman was too far away to see so much detail
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Marjan Rynkiewicz on June 20, 2025, 05:51:39 AM
I’ve read his account and tried to place where he was.
I couldn’t find a spot where he could have seen anything.
The freeway seems to be too far away and the view is obscured.

Has anyone looked into this?
Read my old stuff re Hoffman. He was definitely near where he said.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Frank Beard on June 20, 2025, 07:34:05 AM
  I think Hoffman was too far away to see so much detail

Agreed.

I regard his testimony as totally fake.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Royell Storing on June 20, 2025, 04:09:34 PM

  Please define what you mean by "near". To me, even 300 feet/1 football field is Not "Near".  Hoffman had to be better than a Football Field away from the picket fence/railroad switch box. If you have ever been on a football field, looking from 1 goal line down to the other goal line is a long way to see/distinguish anything in detail. Even Pro Football QB's can Not throw a football from 1 goal line down to the other goal line. The distance is too great.  Hoffman's story has too much detail vs the distance he was from the picket fence/railroad switch boxes. 
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Michael T. Griffith on June 23, 2025, 04:08:29 PM
I think Hoffman was a credible witness. The best book on Hoffman is Casey Quinlan and Brian Edwards' 2016 book Beyond the Fence Line: The Eyewitness Account of Ed Hoffman and the Murder of President Kennedy. Quinlan and Edwards deal with every attack on Hoffman's account.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Royell Storing on June 23, 2025, 05:13:41 PM

  I think it's possible that Hoffman saw the JFK Limo go underneath his viewing position on the Stemmons Fwy. That could happen. But Hoffman seeing in detail all the way over to the picket fence is a serious stretch.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Frank Beard on June 23, 2025, 06:14:25 PM
I think Hoffman was a credible witness. The best book on Hoffman is Casey Quinlan and Brian Edwards' 2016 book Beyond the Fence Line: The Eyewitness Account of Ed Hoffman and the Murder of President Kennedy. Quinlan and Edwards deal with every attack on Hoffman's account.

Thanks for the tip.
I’ve just bought it.

At the moment I don’t believe him, so it will be interesting to see if it changes my mind.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Michael T. Griffith on June 23, 2025, 06:22:55 PM
  I think it's possible that Hoffman saw the JFK Limo go underneath his viewing position on the Stemmons Fwy. That could happen. But Hoffman seeing in detail all the way over to the picket fence is a serious stretch.

It is actually not a serious stretch. Here's a good video on Hoffman and his account:


The video clears up the statements that have been wrongly attributed to Hoffman. Hoffman was mute and communicated via sign language. The problematic statements attributed to Hoffman and cited by critics were the result of faulty sign-language interpretation. The Quinlan-Edwards book does a more thorough job of answering the attacks on Hoffman's account, but this video is a good first step in understanding Hoffman's account.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Royell Storing on June 23, 2025, 08:44:18 PM

  Edwards does a very good solo JFK Assassination presentation on You Tube. That said, and the above presentation included, these guys are doing nobody any favors when they post still frames and photos of Dealey Plaza with the lamp posts having been moved, the Stemmons Sign being GONE, the RL Thornton Sign being GONE, etc. We get newbes looking at these inaccurate visual aids of Dealey Plaza and thinking this is exactly how Dealey Plaza looked on 11/22/63. Posting images of Dealey Plaza with Stuff MOVED, Stuff COMPLETELY GONE, and Stuff ADDED is polluting the minds of several generations that think they are looking at the real 11/22/63 Crime Scene.
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Frank Beard on June 25, 2025, 09:06:49 AM
  Edwards does a very good solo JFK Assassination presentation on You Tube.

I couldn’t take him seriously when he asserted that the plotters had painted the kerb blocks yellow in Dealey Plaza to calibrate the kill site.
Ask the highways engineer’s, they ‘ll know why the kerbs are marked?
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: John Mytton on June 25, 2025, 10:16:04 AM
Hoffman was mute and communicated via sign language. The problematic statements attributed to Hoffman and cited by critics were the result of faulty sign-language interpretation.

Yep, Hoffman's sign-language was open to various faulty interpretations. :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/mDJpkXgJ/The-Hoff-zpsbhfrcf6f.gif)

JohnM
Title: Re: Ed Hoffman - what do people think?
Post by: Royell Storing on June 25, 2025, 04:26:28 PM

 I've never understood why they did Not use a White Board or Legal Pad to simply Write a question and then permit Hoffman to Write his response to the question.