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Title: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Tom Graves on June 16, 2025, 09:19:58 PM
The first shot is off, timing-wise, and I think he has four shots altogether (based on the faulty Dictabelt analysis by the HSCA), but I think he has the spacing and speed of the vehicles synchronized well with the radio transmissions.

https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawK4zONleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFODdsRHVIa2RSUGZJNllFAR6Zx-0JB5zBmwy-qakJKtfLfY5vcW9V2IqOrNXjP-oezkHhb-av38NlRUa-uA_aem_2d95NRPz2dpt6k_03l7iYg
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler motorcade animation
Post by: Jarrett Smith on June 16, 2025, 11:20:18 PM
The first shot is off, timing-wise, and I think he has four shots altogether (based on the faulty Dictabelt analysis by the HSCA), but I think he has the spacing and speed of the vehicles synchronized well with the radio transmissions.

https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawK4zONleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFODdsRHVIa2RSUGZJNllFAR6Zx-0JB5zBmwy-qakJKtfLfY5vcW9V2IqOrNXjP-oezkHhb-av38NlRUa-uA_aem_2d95NRPz2dpt6k_03l7iYg

Another version with the Zapruder film.

Title: Re: The Mark Tyler motorcade animation
Post by: Tom Graves on June 17, 2025, 12:58:41 AM
We know that Zapruder stopped filming at Z-132 while two of the three motorcycle policemen (L.E. Gray and W.G. Lumpkin) were still approaching him on Elm Street.

Question: How long did he pause before resuming filming at Z-133 (the first frame in which the limo is visible in the Zapruder film)?

Answer: According to this animation, about 18 seconds.

According to this animation, the limo was just starting to turn onto Houston Street when the three motorcycle policemen (S. Ellis, L.E. Gray, and W.G. Lumpkin) were starting to turn onto Elm Street, i.e., the limo was a full block behind those three motorcycles.

https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawK4zONleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFFODdsRHVIa2RSUGZJNllFAR6Zx-0JB5zBmwy-qakJKtfLfY5vcW9V2IqOrNXjP-oezkHhb-av38NlRUa-uA_aem_2d95NRPz2dpt6k_03l7iYg
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Royell Storing on June 17, 2025, 01:59:39 AM

 Who is that standing at the (N) Elm St curb near the RL Thornton sign, runs up Elm St to the corner and then moves down the Elm St Ext into the railroad yard? 
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Tom Graves on June 17, 2025, 02:01:57 AM
Who is that standing at the (N) Elm St curb near the RL Thornton sign, runs up Elm St to the corner and then moves down the Elm St Ext into the railroad yard?

Probably the evil, evil CIA mastermind!
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Tom Graves on June 17, 2025, 02:30:22 AM
Who is that standing at the (N) Elm St curb near the RL Thornton sign, runs up Elm St to the corner and then moves down the Elm St Ext into the railroad yard?

Storing,

If you're referring to #83, that's big, tall, black-blouse-and-black-headscarf-wearing Gloria Calvery, whom Sandy Larsen and I identified a few years ago at the so-called Ed Forum.

She didn't go down Elm Street Extension to the railroad yard, though, but to her workplace, the TSBD, where she can be seen in the Couch-Darnell clip, standing on a lower step (next to her clad-in-all-white South-Western Publishing Company colleague) and probably talking with either Joe Molina or . . . gasp . . . Billy Lovelady.
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Royell Storing on June 17, 2025, 06:13:15 AM

  You need to carefully view that link that you posted. It shows the same figure doing exactly what I described.
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Tom Graves on June 17, 2025, 08:21:57 AM
You need to carefully view that link that you posted. It shows the same figure doing exactly what I described.

Storing,

Maybe you should have your eyes checked.

After the Z-313 shot, Gloria Calvery (#83) runs up the sidewalk and confers with policeman Joe M. Smith (#80) in the intersection of Elm and Houston. She then continues on to the TSBD steps where she is "captured" in the Darnell clip. Officer Smith (#80), on the other hand, heads down the Elm Street Extension towards the railway yard.
Title: Re: The Mark Tyler Motorcade Animation
Post by: Royell Storing on June 17, 2025, 01:46:38 PM
Storing,

Maybe you should have your eyes checked.

After the Z-313 shot, Gloria Calvery (#83) runs up the sidewalk and confers with policeman Joe M. Smith (#80) in the intersection of Elm and Houston. She then continues on to the TSBD steps where she is "captured" in the Darnell clip. Officer Smith (#80), on the other hand, heads down the Elm Street Extension towards the railway yard.

  There are 2 people simultaneously moving down the Elm St Ext toward the railroad yard.  They are on different sides of that street. I understand that 1 of them has to be DPD Officer Smith. Who is the other figure?