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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Jake Maxwell on June 12, 2025, 07:47:34 PM
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Who is this in the Darnell film?
Is this Zapruder?
(https://i.ibb.co/WvsYCYFN/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-2-41-01-PM.png)
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Who is this in the Darnell film?
Is this Zapruder?
(https://i.ibb.co/WvsYCYFN/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-2-41-01-PM.png)
Is this Zapruder with the Hesters?
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Is this Zapruder with the Hesters?
Whoever this is, he seems to be talking on a walkie-talkie... No, it ain't no iPhone!
The bend in the elbow, more evident in some than others of these frames below, indicates he is holding something up to his ear...
"Can you hear me now?"
(https://i.ibb.co/n8nHBdkB/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-3-45-24-PM.png)(https://i.ibb.co/fdmk2J9M/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-3-46-21-PM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/HfD0W9qd/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-3-46-48-PM.png)(https://i.ibb.co/bjs2j51R/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-3-47-15-PM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/k2WWmVdz/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-3-47-43-PM.png)(https://i.ibb.co/xKdQWXz3/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-3-48-08-PM.png)
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Who is this in the Darnell film?
Is this Zapruder?
It's the evil, evil Deep State mastermind!
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It's the evil, evil Deep State mastermind!
Indeed... if we are seeing the Hesters, and Zapruder on a walkie-talkie in the Darnell film, it would seem to enlarge the circle of conspirators...
(https://i.ibb.co/0R5SW4ZK/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-5-09-21-PM.pngg)
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Indeed... if we are seeing the Hesters, and Zapruder on a walkie-talkie in the Darnell film, it would seem to enlarge the circle of conspirators...
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
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JAKE - Thanks for posting those Darnell Still Frames. They are the clearest, best stills that you have posted thus far.
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JAKE - Thanks for posting those Darnell Still Frames. They are the clearest, best stills that you have posted thus far.
Royell, Do you know if this is Zapruder and the Hesters?
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Royell, Do you know if this is Zapruder and the Hesters?
That's the claim. Zapruder and the Hesters inside the shelter. Nothing proven there though. To my eye, the guy that is supposed to be Zapruder is too thin. Zapruder was portly. Not as "round" as Oliver Hardy but Z was working on it.
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It actually looks more like a PRINCESS PHONE of the time than a walkie talkie, so since it's also the Darnell Film I'd say he might be be in constant communication with Princess Margaret. ::)
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Indeed... a communication device of some sort...
If questions are raised about persons in the following photos using walkie talkies....
(https://i.ibb.co/pF25bdS/Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-10-04-11-AM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/wZ8201Jp/Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-10-06-21-AM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/dwVCMCdD/Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-10-21-19-AM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/KjVnZzdB/Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-9-16-19-AM.png)
THEN we ought to question this fellow - likely ZAPRUDER... and any connections he might have had with the "dirty deed"....
(https://i.ibb.co/1tqWz6d4/Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-10-10-53-AM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/rRcGThH1/Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-10-10-41-AM.png)
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They had cumbersome walkie talkies in WW 2. And that was roughly 20 yrs before the JFK Assassination. 20 yrs of technological advancements easily produces these walkie talkies that are being speculated about inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63.
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They had cumbersome walkie talkies in WW 2. And that was roughly 20 yrs before the JFK Assassination. 20 yrs of technological advancements easily produces these walkie talkies that are being speculated about inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63.
Yes, the Motorola HT-200 was used in the early 1960's in police work in some places...
I asked Grok if the photo below looks like a person holding a walkie talkie, and got this response:
"Based on the search results showing typical handheld walkie-talkie designs, the object in the circled area of the image could plausibly be a walkie-talkie, given its shape and the way it’s held near the face."
(https://i.ibb.co/zhR2T7gq/Screenshot-2025-06-12-at-5-09-21-PM.png)
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Zapruder's background and connections need to be examined closely.
Claiming he had to be convinced to go back to get his camera is only a sweet story to tell...
All the events that circle around the filming and purchase of the film were planned out in advance, though crafted to make the public believe it was all incidental... No, it was planned out from the start...
So, here is Zapruder talking on a walkie talkie immediately after the assassination.
Zapruder was likely in on it pretty deep... as was Life Magazine and Stolley who purchased the film in order to "deep six" it for 12 years... after a few alterations were made...
The perpetrators did all they possibly could to control the narrative around the assassination... as Hoover would have liked it...
It's good to know that a much greater percentage of US citizens get it... They believe there was a conspiracy to kill the president, and a conspiracy to cover it up...
ZAPRUDER on a walkie talkie just a few minutes after the assassination?!?!?
C'mon... let's start asking some serious questions...
Zapruder's background and connections need to be seriously investigated...
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Zapruder's background and connections need to be examined closely.
Claiming he had to be convinced to go back to get his camera is only a sweet story to tell...
All the events that circle around the filming and purchase of the film were planned out in advance, though crafted to make the public believe it was all incidental... No, it was planned out from the start...
So, here is Zapruder talking on a walkie talkie immediately after the assassination.
Zapruder was likely in on it pretty deep... as was Life Magazine and Stolley who purchased the film in order to "deep six" it for 12 years... after a few alterations were made...
The perpetrators did all they possibly could to control the narrative around the assassination... as Hoover would have liked it...
It's good to know that a much greater percentage of US citizens get it... They believe there was a conspiracy to kill the president, and a conspiracy to cover it up...
ZAPRUDER on a walkie talkie just a few minutes after the assassination?!?!?
C'mon... let's start asking some serious questions...
Zapruder's background and connections need to be seriously investigated...
Zapruder just having a friendly conversation...
Yeah, right...
(https://i.ibb.co/HLPMSJLh/ezgif-com-resize-50.gif)
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Zapruder just having a friendly conversation...
Yeah, right...
(https://i.ibb.co/HLPMSJLh/ezgif-com-resize-50.gif)
Thanks for posting that film snippet. We gotta problem here. Zapruder was Short. This man on the far (R) is taller than the woman next to him inside the shelter. He also appears to be at least as tall as the other man inside the shelter. As technology advances and the assassination images become clearer, ambiguities such as this are now providing image evidence that disproves the official narrative of what went down on 11/22/63. Who is this man on the far (R)?
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Thanks for posting that film snippet. We gotta problem here. Zapruder was Short. This man on the far (R) is taller than the woman next to him inside the shelter. He also appears to be at least as tall as the other man inside the shelter. As technology advances and the assassination images become clearer, ambiguities such as this are now providing image evidence that disproves the official narrative of what went down on 11/22/63. Who is this man on the far (R)?
The angle of the camera and the fact that Zapruder is closer to the camera than the woman, perhaps makes Zapruder look taller than he is...
But this is most likely Abraham Zapruder, and he is most likely on a walkie talkie... and he is most likely not having casual conversation...
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Zapruder just having a friendly conversation...
Yeah, right...
(https://i.ibb.co/HLPMSJLh/ezgif-com-resize-50.gif)
I believe we are seeing this man Enter the Pergola Shelter from that concrete walkway that stretches between the 2 Shelters. Why would Zapruder walk back there after getting down from the Zapruder Perch? That guy looks thiner too. Zapruder was rolly polly.
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The film is not clear enough to determine Zapruder's weight or waistline... It is clear enough to determine the fellow is on a walkie talkie...
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Not Short, Not Portly, and in a position that Zapruder would Not be in. Not Z.
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Camera angle and distance explain it all...
And, to say the man is not in a position that Zapruder would not be, means we have to know where Zapruder would be... which we don't...
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Camera angle and distance explain it all...
And, to say the man is not in a position that Zapruder would not be, means we have to know where Zapruder would be... which we don't...
So tell me why You think Zapruder would have gone to the very rear of the Pergola? Back there where Mr Hester went after he got off the ground. Makes no sense for Zapruder to possibly be there. NONE!
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Images of Zapruder make it very certain... he has the exact same physique as the man on the walkie talkie in the pergola with the Hesters... Yes, the very same physique!
And why not gather with the Hesters in the pergola?
There is absolutely no reason for him not to be there...
(https://i.ibb.co/whbhb4td/Screenshot-2025-06-21-at-7-27-22-PM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/5V6fJ4D/Screenshot-2025-06-21-at-7-27-04-PM.png)
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Let's not be silly. How old is Zapruder in the photo you posted?
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Let's not be silly. How old is Zapruder in the photo you posted?
No... not silly... rather accurate!
The very same physique... as the Zapruder in the photo below from the early 1960's...
AND that could be the very same hat as worn at the pergola... and maybe the very same camera used to film the assassination!!
(https://i.ibb.co/JFxJ82CQ/Screenshot-2025-06-22-at-1-48-26-PM.png)
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Zapruder with a camera in hand in photo one...
And likely with a walkie talkie in photo two...
(https://i.ibb.co/RkdtdRNp/Screenshot-2025-06-22-at-9-09-53-PM.png)
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Just look at the Bell Film where Zapruder had just gotten down from The Perch. He was 58+ years old on that day. He's portly.
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Just look at the Bell Film where Zapruder had just gotten down from The Perch. He was 58+ years old on that day. He's portly.
Not one image of Zapruder in the Bell Film is even close to being as clear as the photo posted below from the exact same time period... He was not "portly."
Additionally, according to ChatGPT, Abraham Zapruder was commonly described in the following way:
Slightly built to average, not fat or portly. In most photos from the 1960s—including the one you shared (below)—he appears to have a stocky or solid frame, but not obese or particularly heavyset.
He was:
About 5'7" to 5'8" tall
Likely around 160–180 pounds
Often seen in a suit and hat.
So while he might be called somewhat stout or solid, the term “portly” would be an exaggeration in most contexts.
(https://i.ibb.co/Q3HdCqxQ/Screenshot-2025-06-23-at-5-14-48-PM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/vvhMCsGW/Screenshot-2025-06-23-at-5-34-25-PM.png)
Same fellow... most likely... with a camera, and on a walkie talkie...
AND, at the very end of one sequence in the Bell Film, Zapruder makes a turn back to his left, toward the pergola... and Darnell seems to catch him there on a walkie talkie...
(https://i.ibb.co/JRfYxxw4/Screenshot-2025-06-23-at-6-39-12-PM.png)
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There are far clearer Bell Film images. "The Lost Bullet" did it with between the sprocket holes images.
"Exact same TIME PERIOD"? What does that specifically mean? You have been hanging around here too long. Your couching whatever you're trying to say. Be bold!
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There are far clearer Bell Film images. "The Lost Bullet" did it with between the sprocket holes images.
"Exact same TIME PERIOD"? What does that specifically mean? You have been hanging around here too long. Your couching whatever you're trying to say. Be bold!
ChatGPT estimates the photo from 1961-1964... Yes, exact time period...
And Zapruder was not considered, "portly," as you say...
And... I've looked at the Bell Film... every frame... not one is nearly as clear as the one I've posted...
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You're looking at garbage. There's much better out there and has been for better than a decade.
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You're looking at garbage. There's much better out there and has been for better than a decade.
The image was from the Sixth Floor Museum copy, and was only to show the direction Zapruder was heading in the Bell Film. If you've got a better copy of that one frame showing Zapruder walking that direction, then produce it so we can see it.
The image below from 1961-1964 shows Zapruder with his camera. He is not "portly" as you say. If you have a better photo to prove otherwise, then produce it so we can see it.
(https://i.ibb.co/gLjRSXJd/Screenshot-2025-06-22-at-1-54-05-PM.png)
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For a long time now the "Sixth Floor" has mirrored "Slanty Sam's Shack" at Knott's Berry Farm. Tilted to say the least.
Like I said, a far better copy of the Bell Film was presented on "The Lost Bullet". Other assassination films too on on that JFK Special. Buy the DVD for your personal JFK Assassination Library. New copies are available on Ebay for under $20 delivered. It was put out by National Geographic. Their stuff visually is Top Shelf.
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For a long time now the "Sixth Floor" has mirrored "Slanty Sam's Shack" at Knott's Berry Farm. Tilted to say the least.
Like I said, a far better copy of the Bell Film was presented on "The Lost Bullet". Other assassination films too on on that JFK Special. Buy the DVD for your personal JFK Assassination Library. New copies are available on Ebay for under $20 delivered. It was put out by National Geographic. Their stuff visually is Top Shelf.
Royell, If you have a better photo, post it...
Most everyone who has been on the forum for any length of time knows about the high quality of The Lost Bullet... and anyone who has read my posts, know that I've known about it for years... and have posted about it often...
If you have a photo from the Bell Film or any credible testimony that Zapruder was large and portly as you say, post it... otherwise move on...
You likely have no photo because the best photo of Zapruder produced from that period in his life has likely been posted already in this thread...
Stop quibbling about nothing and talking down, as though no one else has access to resources... and move on to another thread...
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