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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on April 03, 2025, 12:57:35 PM
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-parkland-doctors-part-four (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-parkland-doctors-part-four)
The Parkland Doctors, Part Four
A good article about the Parkland doctors.
In fact, Dr. Jenkins doubts if any of the Parkland physicians even had a good look at the President's head, explaining, "I was standing at the head of the table in the position the anesthesiologist most often assumes closest to the patient's head. My presence there and the President's great shock of hair and the location of the head wound were such that it was not visible to those standing down each side of the gurney where they were carrying out their resuscitative maneuvers."
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The attempted case being made has reached a dead end when a Witness is telling the jury what Somebody Else saw. There was blood/brain matter oozing outta JFK, Down onto the gurney, and from the gurney Down onto the floor of Trauma Room 1 with each compression of external cardiac massage that was applied. The patient was laying face up. That "stuff" ain't coming outta his big toe.
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-parkland-doctors-part-four (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-parkland-doctors-part-four)
The Parkland Doctors, Part Four
A good article about the Parkland doctors.
In fact, Dr. Jenkins doubts if any of the Parkland physicians even had a good look at the President's head, explaining, "I was standing at the head of the table in the position the anesthesiologist most often assumes closest to the patient's head. My presence there and the President's great shock of hair and the location of the head wound were such that it was not visible to those standing down each side of the gurney where they were carrying out their resuscitative maneuvers."
An interesting part of that press article:
"...Jim Carrico, MD, a fist-year surgical resident, was the first physician to treat Kennedy, at 12:35 PM, and the first to notice the small bubbling wound in the front of the neck that necessitated the tracheostomy."
How could it be that the bullet caused only a small exit hole in Kennedy's throat but a huge exit hole under Connally's nipple?
Are we to assume that the bullet was travelling faster as it exited Kennedy than it did exiting Connally (being slowed by its passage through Connally's chest)? Do faster bullets leave smaller exit wounds?
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The bullet was tumbling and so that is why the wounds are different.
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The bullet was tumbling and so that is why the wounds are different.
...and yet the exit hole in Connally's suit was a perfect little round hole. Explain.
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...and yet the exit hole in Connally's suit was a perfect little round hole. Explain.
Since I'm a fair and reasonable provisional LNer (F&RPLNer), here's a good article by Ben Cole, another researcher I respect, addressing your point:
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-death-of-the-tumbling-magic-bullet-theory-the-governor-s-shirt-the-president-s-shirt-and-the-overlooked-dr-robert-shaw
An earlier one from Millcent Cranor:
https://history-matters.com/essays/jfkmed/BigLieSmallWound/BigLieSmallWound.htm
Sure, the SBT is problematical. I wish more thought were given to outside-the-box thinking - the two-shot theory, the shallow back wound possibility, the throat wound as a fragment from the head wound possibility, etc. Put together (1) the testimony two shots were very close together, (2) the alignment of the holes in JFK's coat and shirt with the back and throat wounds, (3) the SBT and (4) the Magic Bullet and it's enough to give even a F&RPLNer pause about the standard narrative.
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An interesting part of that press article:
"...Jim Carrico, MD, a fist-year surgical resident, was the first physician to treat Kennedy, at 12:35 PM, and the first to notice the small bubbling wound in the front of the neck that necessitated the tracheostomy."
How could it be that the bullet caused only a small exit hole in Kennedy's throat but a huge exit hole under Connally's nipple?
Are we to assume that the bullet was travelling faster as it exited Kennedy than it did exiting Connally (being slowed by its passage through Connally's chest)? Do faster bullets leave smaller exit wounds?
Along with allegedly making a neat little Exit wound in the neck of JFK, you have the same gun/same ammo somehow EXPLODING JFK'S HEAD on contact. Ridiculous!
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Along with allegedly making a neat little Exit wound in the neck of JFK, you have the same gun/same ammo somehow EXPLODING JFK'S HEAD on contact. Ridiculous!
I'm no so sure. The head shot bullet trajectory was glancing blow into hard bone whereas the back/neck shot simply tore through muscle/flesh. It's understandable that the effect on the bullets would be very different.
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I'm no so sure. The head shot bullet trajectory was glancing blow into hard bone whereas the back/neck shot simply tore through muscle/flesh. It's understandable that the effect on the bullets would be very different.
Thumb1:
Once a bullet starts slowing it causes less and less damage, to itself and its target.
CE399 went straight through Kennedy's soft fleshed neck as a FMJ bullet is designed to do but when the bullet that struck the dense bone of Kennedy's skull, it fragmented and the internal pressure was such that the only way to escape was to explode Kennedy's head.
(https://i.ibb.co/Df82RxPW/different-velocities-bullet-fragment.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/M5cjGFNZ/6thfloorsimulationgif.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/cKPwCyp7/ballistic-gel-shot.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/k6VHn4hL/Ballistic-gel-2.gif)
JohnM
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I'm no so sure. The head shot bullet trajectory was glancing blow into hard bone whereas the back/neck shot simply tore through muscle/flesh. It's understandable that the effect on the bullets would be very different.
So during WW2 when a soldier was shot in the head by a Carcano Bullet the soldier's Head EXPLODED? Not on your Geneva Convention.
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So during WW2 when a soldier was shot in the head by a Carcano Bullet the soldier's Head EXPLODED? Not on your Geneva Convention.
The singular term Geneva Convention colloquially denotes the agreements of 1949, negotiated in the aftermath of the Second World War (1939–1945), which updated the terms of the two 1929 treaties and added two new conventions. The Geneva Conventions extensively define the basic rights of wartime prisoners, civilians and military personnel; establish protections for the wounded and sick; and provide protections for the civilians in and around a war-zone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
JohnM
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Along with allegedly making a neat little Exit wound in the neck of JFK, you have the same gun/same ammo somehow EXPLODING JFK'S HEAD on contact. Ridiculous!
Thanks for pointing out and reinforcing that FMJ bullets were being used, what serious assassin would bring a military weapon that used FMJ bullets to an assassination? Oswald that's who, the guy who could only afford a WW2 surplus weapon that cost 13 bucks!
Now, in your scenario of multiple shooters all over Dealey Plaza let's examine the multiple wounds.
From behind Kennedy was shot in the base of his neck or as you prefer in the upper back with a non exploding bullet.
From in front Kennedy's neck was shot with a non exploding bullet.
From behind Connally was shot at the base of his right arm pit with a non exploding bullet.
From in front Connally was shot below the right nipple with a non exploding bullet.
From who knows where Connally's right wrist was shot with a non exploding bullet.
From some high vantage point Connally's thigh was struck with a non exploding bullet.
All these injuries are consistent with a WW2 military weapon which fires FMJ bullets and if your conspirators had any brains, they would want to use this type of weapon from all angles to lessen the chances of being exposed and all the better to frame a patsy with a military weapon that fires FMJ bullets. At the end of the day your not so professional assassins who were trying to kill Kennedy, left Connally alive and without the headshot it's believed that Kennedy had a good chance of surviving!
You with me so far? Now we are left with the headshot and somehow you want to believe that yet another weapon was used that "EXPLODED JFK'S HEAD on contact." And according to you this exploding bullet "EXPLODED JFK'S HEAD" and left a neat isolated basketball sized blood stain a few feet away? WOW!
Questions.
Presumably every FMJ shot fired was to kill it's target, so why slip in an EXPLODING BULLET?
How does an exploding bullet leave a neat isolated basketball sized blood stain a few feet away?
Why were so many professional assassins firing multiple shots to hit a slow moving target at less than a hundred yards away?
Were the Keystone Kops of trained assassins going cheap?
JohnM
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As usual, what is missing from this, "wake me when it's over", Laundry List? A LOST BULLET. Any presentation dodging this Elephant In The Room knows that it's a Huge Hole you could drive a Mack Truck through. So we have: (1) MAGIC BULLET + (2) LOST BULLET. That's your "Case"? Tell me another one Daddy.