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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on March 31, 2025, 01:36:44 PM
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JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
The Boston Globe in 1981 got permission to have a professional panel examine all 52 of JFK"s autopsy photographs. They listened to Robert Groden's case that some had been altered. In the end, they unanimously agreed that the photographs were authentic.
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JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
The Boston Globe in 1981 got permission to have a professional panel examine all 52 of JFK"s autopsy photographs. They listened to Robert Groden's case that some had been altered. In the end, they unanimously agreed that the photographs were authentic.
I trust the people who were actually at the autopsy over a panel of "professionals". Was Tom Robinson the mortician allowed to examine the photos?
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I never like experts going privately going into a "back room" like the above. Even the Parkland Dr's going into a backroom and looking at alleged autopsy photos is a sketchy process. We can Not be Certain as to what any of these people/experts are looking at. Are they looking at different autopsy photos than We/Joe 6 Packs have looked at? We simply do Not know. Agreeing with the findings of this very restrictive "process" is like buying into David Copperfield sawing that lady in half.
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"In the 1990s, some Parkland doctors, including those involved in the initial treatment of President Kennedy, disputed the accuracy of the autopsy photographs, particularly regarding a large wound in the back of the president's head that some witnesses claimed to have seen but which was not depicted in the photos"
https://jfk.boards.net/post/7724
This is should be the required reading re: the JFK Autopsy...
HOW FIVE INVESTIGATIONS INTO JFK’S MEDICAL/AUTOPSY EVIDENCE GOT IT WRONG
https://history-matters.com/essays/jfkmed/How5Investigations/How5InvestigationsGotItWrong_5.htm
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I have accepted your sword. There is no disgrace in Standing Down.
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I have accepted your sword. There is no disgrace in Standing Down.
I have no idea what this means
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I trust the people who were actually at the autopsy over a panel of "professionals". Was Tom Robinson the mortician allowed to examine the photos?
Sorry, how would a mortician, Tom Robinson, know whether the photos were altered or not? Did he have any background in the subject? And would he remember what the photos should have looked like almost 20 years later?
According to the timeline that seems to me most accurate, he arrived with the embalming team after the autopsy began at around 11:00. Then watched it from the spectator's area before beginning the embalming. So he arrives some three hours after the autopsy began, was watching from the gallery, and can tell what the body looked like when the photos were taken? I am skeptical.
Yes, experts can be wrong. But we need to point where they are wrong and not simply dismiss them.
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Sorry, how would a mortician, Tom Robinson, know whether the photos were altered or not? Did he have any background in the subject? And would he remember what the photos should have looked like almost 20 years later? According to the timeline that seems to me most accurate, he arrived with a coffin *after* the autopsy began and then watched it from the spectator's area. So he's watching from the gallery and can tell what the body looked like? I am skeptical.
Yes, experts can be wrong. But we need to point where they are wrong and not simply dismiss them.
With respect to Robinson, I believe his recollections would be restricted to JFK's HEAD. Robinson applied a Patch of sorts over the Large Exit Wound in the back of JFK's head. I believe a mortician doing detailed work such as this to a POTUS would be remembered in detail. Also, Robinson believed he was preparing the JFK Body for an Open Casket Viewing. I believe this expectation would further make Robinson's work meticulous and therefore memory stamped.
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I believe the photographs are "authentic". This is a generic term that states that these were the pictures or x-rays for that matter, that were taken of the actual body. It doesn't mean to say that someone dictated what camera angles were used or if patches were applied to the skull in order to produce a series of pictures which fits the LNer narrative. Who knows how many x-rays and pictures were taken, which were kept and which were discarded to get the correct effect. You only want the ones that match your story to be there!
For me, as I look back at the Zapruder film, I can see clear evidence that the scalp is being "blown back" over the head. This would indicate a frontal assault and likely was a combination of front and behind bullets. The theory there was more than one shooter and not a bolt action single rifle! Look clearly at Z3316 and Z317. There is a lick of hair(ie. scalp with hair attachment) shown above JFK's head. Followed by Z317, you can also see a white (bone likely) leaving right after just back of the head. For me that is a frontal shot. The vehicle did not speed up quickly and propel his body back, neither was his move an involuntary one and a spasm. Jacqueline went back to retrieve later. If you buy this, you can then try to relate it to the autopsy. How did the piece get back in place? How come some autopsy pictures show the flap back over the skull? This, of course was what the original doctors working on JFK saw in the operating room at Parkland Memorial Hospital (Dr. Kenneth Salyer's Account in 2008)
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4214.8.html (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4214.8.html)
That contradicts the autopsy photos. He said it looked like tape was used (squared pieces on photo) to hold things in place and that in his opinion was altered.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9MyyqkKL/z316.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx4XkQsM/z317.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That contradicts the autopsy photos. He said it looked like tape was used (squared pieces on photo) to hold things in place and that in his opinion was altered.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9MyyqkKL/z316.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx4XkQsM/z317.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I just watched the entire Salyer interview about a week ago. He did indeed say that the flap of skin suggested to him a tangential shot from the front. And he did say that the hairline in the autopsy photos in a book he was handed during the interview did not look natural and that it appeared to flap had been taped into place. On the other hand, he indicated he would not go so far as to insist on a shot from the front and thought a tangential shot from the rear was possible. He also said he accepted Oswald as the gunman. As I pointed out on another thread, by the time he died he was a firm proponent of the SBT and Oswald as the lone gunman. If the autopsy photos are authentic, it seems pretty clear that some of them were taken with the flap placed and/or held in place and after there had been some clean up. I also recall Salyer saying that the wound even when he saw in in Trauma Room 1 wasn't particularly bloody as we might expect. FWIW.
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The FBI Lab Photograph of the JFK Limo back seat area shows a basketball size blood/brain matter Stain on the very Top of the JFK Limo Back Rest. The Zapruder Film shows that JFK's Head NEVER came into contact with the Top of that Back Rest. I believe this Large Blood/Brain Matter Stain is PROOF of a Large Exit Wound in the Back of JFK's head. The Blood/Brain Matter from that Rear EXIT Wound also impacted DPD Motorcycle Officer Hargis riding on the (L) Rear of the Limo, while also being responsible for whatever Jackie crawled onto the Limo trunk lid to recover. The improvement in the clarity of this FBI Lab Photo is Now permitting us to see this blood splatter/stain far more clearly.
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That again points directly to a frontal shot if brain matter is clearly on the back of the seat and not splattered over Connally which you would expect from a rear shot. Some would say that they didn't get the patch in place just right as it is lighter in colour and thereby lack authenticity! The x-ray is there but looks like a lighter shade! This was pointed in the observation below.
https://assassinationofjfk.net/a-review-of-the-jfk-cranial-x-rays-and-photographs/ (https://assassinationofjfk.net/a-review-of-the-jfk-cranial-x-rays-and-photographs/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zyhz4pmL/A-Review-of-the-JFK-Cranial-x-Rays-and-Photographs-31.png) (https://postimg.cc/zyhz4pmL)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SXpS48qg/A-Review-of-the-JFK-Cranial-x-Rays-and-Photographs-32.png)
(https://postimg.cc/SXpS48qg)
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That again points directly to a frontal shot if brain matter is clearly on the back of the seat and not splattered over Connally which you would expect from a rear shot.
Connally: "A third shot was fired and the president’s brain tissue and blood were splattered over the blue velour of the limousine, over Nellie’s clothes and my own. By then my head was resting in my wife’s lap and she was whispering to me, 'Be still. You’re going to be all right.'" https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/i-knew-i-had-been-hit/
Connally at the WC: "Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail ..."
I'm not sure what Royell is talking about. This is not an FBI Crime Lab photo, I don't believe, but I don't see anything inconsistent with shots from the rear. Good Lord, from Dealey Plaza until JFK was removed at Parkland, the back seat of the car was chaos, and then it was "cleaned" by SS agents at Parkland.
(https://preview.redd.it/1dnqo7xlxrb71.jpg?auto=webp&s=ed68551cd7661b01154fb79d35f1c5c316a42e52)
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Connally: "A third shot was fired and the president’s brain tissue and blood were splattered over the blue velour of the limousine, over Nellie’s clothes and my own. By then my head was resting in my wife’s lap and she was whispering to me, 'Be still. You’re going to be all right.'" https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/i-knew-i-had-been-hit/
Connally at the WC: "Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail ..."
I'm not sure what Royell is talking about. This is not an FBI Crime Lab photo, I don't believe, but I don't see anything inconsistent with shots from the rear. Good Lord, from Dealey Plaza until JFK was removed at Parkland, the back seat of the car was chaos, and then it was "cleaned" by SS agents at Parkland.
(https://preview.redd.it/1dnqo7xlxrb71.jpg?auto=webp&s=ed68551cd7661b01154fb79d35f1c5c316a42e52)
Lance - Thanks for posting that photo. You have seen the Zapruder film showing that JFK's head Never came into contact with the Top of the Back Rest? And you have seen the Autopsy Photo of the NEAT LITTLE Entrance wound in the cowlick area of JFK/s head? And you Know that once they got to Parkland Hospital JFK was Lifted UP & then Over the (R) SIDE of the Limo? So Exactly how does a shot from the Rear deposit a Blood Stain the size of a basketball BEHIND JFK? That basketball size blood stain is the result of a Blowout Exit Wound as was described by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. This is the same Blowout Exit Wound that spurted Blood/Brain Matter with each compression of JFK's chest as they applied external cardiac massage inside Trauma Room 1. You say, "the back seat of the car was chaos...". I agree that JFK fell to his (L) across the "BACK SEAT". The basketball size Blood Stain is on the Top of the "BACK REST". That Blood Stain corroborates the Parkland Dr's observations of there being an EXIT wound on the BACK of JFK'S head.
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Royell, you could also add that the motorcyclist on the LHS rear of the vehicle also was showered with brain matter and bodily debris. A shot coming from the front explains that well. Reaction of Kennedy's body as well. For me, it is also clear that the projectile (whitish object) just to the back of Kennedy's head on Z317 was part of that frontal shot which propelled material to the LHS of vehicle in the rearward direction, just like the scalp with the hair tassle visible in Z316.
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Royell, you could also add that the motorcyclist on the LHS rear of the vehicle also was showered with brain matter and bodily debris. A shot coming from the front explains that well. Reaction of Kennedy's body as well. For me, it is also clear that the projectile (whitish object) just to the back of Kennedy's head on Z317 was part of that frontal shot which propelled material to the LHS of vehicle in the rearward direction, just like the scalp with the hair tassle visible in Z316.
And whatever Jackie was crawling after on the Limo Trunk Lid came out of the Exit Wound in the BACK of JFK's head.
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Lance - Thanks for posting that photo. You have seen the Zapruder film showing that JFK's head Never came into contact with the Top of the Back Rest? And you have seen the Autopsy Photo of the NEAT LITTLE Entrance wound in the cowlick area of JFK/s head? And you Know that once they got to Parkland Hospital JFK was Lifted UP & then Over the (R) SIDE of the Limo? So Exactly how does a shot from the Rear deposit a Blood Stain the size of a basketball BEHIND JFK? That basketball size blood stain is the result of a Blowout Exit Wound as was described by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. This is the same Blowout Exit Wound that spurted Blood/Brain Matter with each compression of JFK's chest as they applied external cardiac massage inside Trauma Room 1. You say, "the back seat of the car was chaos...". I agree that JFK fell to his (L) across the "BACK SEAT". The basketball size Blood Stain is on the Top of the "BACK REST". That Blood Stain corroborates the Parkland Dr's observations of there being an EXIT wound on the BACK of JFK'S head.
(https://i.ibb.co/DHpgDjcD/jfk-limo-blood-brains.webp)
So this is the "uncropped" photo that you posted about the other day, the one that seemingly let the World finally see your piece of hidden evidence?
You are such a fraud, I have never seen this image being cropped to hide the "blood stain the size of a basketball" which BTW isn't behind JFK but is behind Jackie. DOH! This is why you never post photos, because you like to lurk in the shadows and lie!
When doing a google search for "JFK Limo bloodstain", the first images all show the "hidden" area!!
(https://i.ibb.co/Hjkfzkk/jfk-limo-bloodstain-google-images.jpg)
And surprise, surprise, surprise, what is amazing is you don't know where JFK was actually sitting??
(https://i.ibb.co/YBmDfbLB/jfk-limo-dallas.jpg)
And according to McClelland, the back of head wound was on Kennedy's right side!
(https://i.ibb.co/rKfp7XqB/Mc-Clelland-bohc.jpg)
There could be many reasons for the blood stain! Here's footage of Kennedy's open head wound snapping back in an area very close to the blood stain.
(https://i.ibb.co/TDSbW23B/jackiegetout.gif)
JohnM
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This is where a broad knowledge of the JFK Assassination leaves the LN's in the rear view mirror every time. That Basketball Size Blood Stain would be in line with what hit DPD Officer Hargis on the (L) rear of the Limo. Plus, remember the image of the WIND blown coats of Hill and Moorman. That Blood/Brain Matter Stain on the Top of the Back Rest is both Large and Densely Concentrated. A Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter.
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This is where a broad knowledge of the JFK Assassination leaves the LN's in the rear view mirror every time. That Basketball Size Blood Stain would be in line with what hit DPD Officer Hargis on the (L) rear of the Limo. Plus, remember the image of the WIND blown coats of Hill and Moorman. That Blood/Brain Matter Stain on the Top of the Back Rest is both Large and Densely Concentrated. A Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter.
That Basketball Size Blood Stain would be in line with what hit DPD Officer Hargis on the (L) rear of the Limo.
Let me get this straight, in direct contrast of McClelland's drawing, there was a blowout on the opposite side of Kennedy's head and while Kennedy had his back either on, or close to the back of the seat, there was a cone of blood spray that appeared a few feet away and was isolated to small section of the rear headrest and that's your theory? Really?
This isn't some Hollywood squib effect but in real life there is an explosion of blood that expands rapidly and if the shot came from the extreme right front as you seem to suggest then almost the entire rear of the back headrest and the rear trunk would be covered with matter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4G3YX9t/dealey-plaza-eyewitness-1st-day-zapruder.gif)
These Zapruder frames of the trunk show no signs of blood or chunks or anything. Now we do see a fine spray come up in Zapruder which would have settled on the trunk and that Hargis rode through and perhaps caught Jackie's eye but if we are to believe your scenario, then on the left side we should be seeing quite a lot, but alas we see what is to be expected from a rear shot.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yLmsx3d/zap-jackie-trunk.gif)
A Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter.
Really, then you can post a link to your "textbook" or at least some photographic examples? Thanks in advance! Thumb1:
JohnM
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You obviously do not understand where JFK's Head was positioned at the time of the Kill Shot. Basic stuff you should Know. But, you were always content with just nodding in agreement with the others in the club and sometimes posting a very "poor taste" cartoon. None of that expanded your knowledge of this case. You were only treading water. And now, like a runner trailing badly on The Gun Lap, it's too late to catch up. It's all passed you by.
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You obviously do not understand where JFK's Head was positioned at the time of the Kill Shot. Basic stuff you should Know. But, you were always content with just nodding in agreement with the others in the club and sometimes posting a very "poor taste" cartoon. None of that expanded your knowledge of this case. You were only treading water. And now, like a runner trailing badly on The Gun Lap, it's too late to catch up. It's all passed you by.
Kennedy's head at Z312, the time of headshot. And the bullet trajectory required for "A Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter."
(https://i.ibb.co/21LdZsGH/z312-Royell-s-bullet-path-a.jpg)
Questions;
• How did the exit wound on the rear right of Kennedy's head factor into the basketball sized blood stain which was to the left and below?
• How in your scenario was Hargis struck by blood/brain spatter?
• Where was the shooter, by my calculations, he/she would be at least several feet above the top of the Grassy Knoll fence.
BTW, here's the Limo trunk and rear seat head rest before and after the headshot, Zapruder frames(Z312-Z316) and there is nothing to see here!
(https://i.ibb.co/6J0JQ3cQ/z312-z316-trunk.gif)
The above image is a GIF and thus suffers from compression, so here is a JPEG comparison which isn't the same as my 2nd generation 23 meg .TIF original but is sufficient enough for this purpose.
(https://i.ibb.co/SD4Lh9zT/z312-z316-b.jpg)
JohnM
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That crude line would be germane if the Kill Shot was coming from above the Triple Underpass. Almost Dead On. Not so, and indicative of the deception you have been forced to stoop to. I should take this as a compliment regarding the impossible to escape corner you have been backed you into, but I don't. We have newbes looking in and that "Thin Red Line" might be taken as Fact. Sometimes, I am forced into the role of, "The Gate Keeper"
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That crude line would be germane if the Kill Shot was coming from above the Triple Underpass. Almost Dead On. Not so, and indicative of the deception you have been forced to stoop to. I should take this as a compliment regarding the impossible to escape corner you have been backed you into, but I don't. We have newbes looking in and that "Thin Red Line" might be taken as Fact. Sometimes, I am forced into the role of, "The Gate Keeper"
Says the man who claims that the Nix film was altered to make Elm street go uphill in the opposite direction, but never gave a single thought to the fact that Nix wasn't holding his camera perfectly horizontal. And now claiming that an isolated basketball sized blood smear is evidence of a shot from the right front is your most psychotic claim yet!
Physics, geometry and photo analysis has never been your forte. :D
BTW the reason you answered none of my questions is because you can't!
1) There is no way a wound on the right rear side of Kennedy's head can deposit matter on the opposite side, it's a physical impossibility!
2) You claim your eyewitness Hargis was struck at the same time as what created your blood spatter smear but since you are stuck with your singular basketball sized deposit which you say is "a Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter" and this is reinforced with the Zapruder film showing no matter on the trunk, your theory of Hargis being struck as a consequence of this "blowout" goes "poof"
3) The red line is the bullet trajectory from Zapruder's POV, it doesn't extend out in front because of you know, "geometry". In fact the trajectory extends out to the right side way above the Grassy Knoll fence and is no where near the Triple underpass.
JohnM
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That Blood/Brain Matter Stain on the Top of the Back Rest is both Large and Densely Concentrated. A Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter.
If the blood stain is both "Large and Densely Concentrated" and Capitalized for Greater Impact! Then where is it?
(https://i.ibb.co/SD4Lh9zT/z312-z316-b.jpg)
JohnM
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Says the man who claims that the Nix film was altered to make Elm street go uphill in the opposite direction, but never gave a single thought to the fact that Nix wasn't holding his camera perfectly horizontal. And now claiming that an isolated basketball sized blood smear is evidence of a shot from the right front is your most psychotic claim yet!
Physics, geometry and photo analysis has never been your forte. :D
BTW the reason you answered none of my questions is because you can't!
1) There is no way a wound on the right rear side of Kennedy's head can deposit matter on the opposite side, it's a physical impossibility!
2) You claim your eyewitness Hargis was struck at the same time as what created your blood spatter smear but since you are stuck with your singular basketball sized deposit which you say is "a Text Book Blowout Exit Wound Blood Splatter" and this is reinforced with the Zapruder film showing no matter on the trunk, your theory of Hargis being struck as a consequence of this "blowout" goes "poof"
3) The red line is the bullet trajectory from Zapruder's POV, it doesn't extend out in front because of you know, "geometry". In fact the trajectory extends out to the right side way above the Grassy Knoll fence and is no where near the Triple underpass.
JohnM
Here's Hargis explaining what happened:
Question: You were sprayed with matter, and you were behind the limousine, and yet you say you initially ran to the Book Depository because of the suggestion of the direction of the shot.
Hargis: Right.
Question: But the actual - the fact that you were behind the car suggests that the shot in fact came from the front and right of the car.
Hargis: Well, that right there is what I've wondered about all along, but see there's ah -- you've got to take into consideration we were moving at the time, and when he got hit all that stuff went like this, and of course I run through it.
Again: "I run through it."
And this:
Question: Would you say that he was hit in the rear of the head, the side of the head, or the front of his head?
Hargis: If he'd got hit in the rear, I'd of been able to see it. All I saw was just a splash come out on the other side.
NARA record number 180-10096-10005 and here: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/hargis.htm
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Officer Hargis got off his motorcycle, ran across Elm St and, "....I ran up up to this kind of a little wall, brick wall up there to see if I could get a better look on the BRIDGE...". (WC Testimony). DPD Officer Hargis was HIT with blood/brain matter and judged the shot being fired from the FRONT.
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Here's Hargis explaining what happened:
Question: You were sprayed with matter, and you were behind the limousine, and yet you say you initially ran to the Book Depository because of the suggestion of the direction of the shot.
Hargis: Right.
Question: But the actual - the fact that you were behind the car suggests that the shot in fact came from the front and right of the car.
Hargis: Well, that right there is what I've wondered about all along, but see there's ah -- you've got to take into consideration we were moving at the time, and when he got hit all that stuff went like this, and of course I run through it.
Again: "I run through it."
And this:
Question: Would you say that he was hit in the rear of the head, the side of the head, or the front of his head?
Hargis: If he'd got hit in the rear, I'd of been able to see it. All I saw was just a splash come out on the other side.
NARA record number 180-10096-10005 and here: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/hargis.htm
Thanks for the link Steve, that page of Hargis consistently relating the same story for three decades speaks for itself, Hargis simply drove through a shower of matter, the same matter seen erupting up out the top of Kennedy's head.
Hargis: If he'd got hit in the rear, I'd of been able to see it. All I saw was just a splash come out on the other side.
Oops, Storing's insane theory of the origin of the blood smear goes "poof".
JohnM
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I don't wanta literally beat a dead horse, but you're proving this murder case has passed you by. Hargis is ruling out a shot from the rear. "If he'd got HIT in the rear, I'd been able to see it". "HIT" would apply to an Entrance Wound. This is why I supplied a piece of the Hargis WC Testimony. He thought the Kill Shot came from in FRONT of the JFK Limo. And again, you prove my point regarding the Old Guard JFK Research Community being lost when it comes to witness accounts and especially Sworn Testimony. You guys are absolutely clueless in these areas.
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I don't wanta literally beat a dead horse, but you're proving this murder case has passed you by. Hargis is ruling out a shot from the rear. "If he'd got HIT in the rear, I'd been able to see it". "HIT" would apply to an Entrance Wound. This is why I supplied a piece of the Hargis WC Testimony. He thought the Kill Shot came from in FRONT of the JFK Limo. And again, you prove my point regarding the Old Guard JFK Research Community being lost when it comes to witness accounts and especially Sworn Testimony. You guys are absolutely clueless in these areas.
Storing,
Had Hargis ever seen anyone else get shot in the back of the head with round-nosed FMJ bullet fired from a high-powered rifle?
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Ask your question to the member of the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community that thought he was standing behind that Hargis quote. Shot himself in the foot is what he did. And again, this is what happens when the Old Guard gets into JFK Assassination Sworn Testimony. They have No Clue in this extremely critical area of the JFK murder investigation.
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Ask your question to the member of the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community that thought he was standing behind that Hargis quote. Shot himself in the foot is what he did. And again, this is what happens when the Old Guard gets into JFK Assassination Sworn Testimony. They have No Clue in this extremely critical area of the JFK murder investigation.
Why don't you answer it, Storing?