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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Tom Graves on March 30, 2025, 10:12:12 PM
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In the Zapruder film, the people standing to the left of the Stemmons Freeway sign are (from R to L):
Sharon Simmons (tallish; wearing a medium-blue headscarf)
Gloria Jean Holt (strawberry blond)
Stella Mae Jacob (self-described American Indian)
"June" Dishong* (worked at a company a few blocks away)
Peggy Burney(?) (Abraham Zapruder's Assistant)
Jean Newman
Ernest Brandt (wearing suit and hat)
John Templin
Gloria Calvery (big-tall, glasses-wearing, dark red hair; worked at South-West Publishing Company in the TSBD)
Karen Hicks or Carol Reed (they both worked at South-West Publishing Company in the TSBD; in the Z-film, the gal wearing the white blouse / red skirt was later the "Running Woman" in Couch-Darnell)
Carol Reed or Karen Hicks (see above)
Karen Westbrook (tallish; wearing a dark dress or raincoat and a very light-blue scarf; worked at South-West Publishing Company in the TSBD)
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*Mrs. Dishong wrote down her recollections after the assassination.
The following is an excerpt:
"12:15 Better put on my jacket it might be chilly although the sun is shining bright. WE go down the elevator at the back of the building and across the corner down the sidewalk in front of the Texas book depository and about 30 feet [?] beyond the corner. The sun is warm. I’ll take off my jacket we might have quite a wait for the president’s car. I look back up the mall. The grass is green, and the shrubbery is orange and brown foliage and is beautiful in the bright sunshine." [emphasis added]
Don Roberdeau wrote this about Dishong:
"DISHONG is seen in the ZAPRUDER film standing along the Elm Street north curbline, just east (Z-frame leftward) of the "Stemmons" freeway sign. She is the fourth person to the frame-apparent left of the sign, with darker, somewhat short hair, wearing a blouse with red and blue plaid stripes, and a dark colored skirt. (in her diary she estimated that she was 30’ from the corner -- which I took to be the Elm Street curving abutment corner between Elm Street and the Elm Street Extension road-- but DISHONG’s family has confirmed to me that she pointed herself out to the family in a "Life" magazine they still have that she said she was the 4th person seen to the left of the Stemmons Freeway sign in the Z-film)."
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(https://i.postimg.cc/J007LFFT/Zapruder-Calvery-Named.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/J007LFFT/Zapruder-Calvery-Named.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Did Robin Unger finally get it right?
Holy Toledo!
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Did Robin Unger finally get it right?
Holy Toledo!
I did that myself a while back.
It was based on the work I'd seen done regarding this issue in the Ed forum and work done by Pat Speer.
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I did that myself a while back.
It was based on the work I'd seen done regarding this issue in the Ed forum and work done by Pat Speer.
Did you know that it was I who determined at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum that Unger's "Calvery," "Hicks," and "Reed" were actually Jacob, Holt, and Simmons?
And that Sandy Larsen and I (with help from a few others) determined that the unlabeled large-and-tall-gal standing next to John Templin in Zapruder was Gloria Calvery?
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Did you know that it was I who determined at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum that Unger's "Calvery," "Hicks," and "Reed" were actually Jacob, Holt, and Simmons?
And that Sandy Larsen and I (with help from a few others) determined that the unlabeled large-and-tall-gal standing next to John Templin in Zapruder was Gloria Calvery?
Yeah.
I got interested in the assassination during lockdown and was starting to research it when I came across you're work with Sandy, Linda et al.
I was inspired by this group of people collaborating and adding to the understanding of the case. I couldn't join the Ed forum so joined here with the hope of finding like minded people looking to collaborate on research.
What a joke that turned out to be.
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I got interested in the assassination during lockdown and was starting to research it when I came across your work with Sandy, Linda et al.
Please freshen my memory as to what Linda Giovanna Zambanini did that contributed to the identification of Gloria Calvery in the Zapruder film / Darnel clip and/or the realization that Robin Unger had incorrectly labeled the three gals standing "next to" the Stemmons Freeway sign in the Zapruder film.
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Please freshen my memory as to what Linda Giovanna Zambanini did that contributed to the identification of Gloria Calvery in the Zapruder film / Darnel clip and/or the realization that Robin Unger had incorrectly labeled the three gals standing "next to" the Stemmons Freeway sign in the Zapruder film.
It was actually Linda who was the first person to make the ID of Gloria on Elm Street but it went unnoticed.
I can't be arsed going back through those threads as it was long ago
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It was actually Linda who was the first person to make the ID of Gloria on Elm Street but it went unnoticed.
I can't be arsed going back through those threads as it was long ago
Did she do that at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum website?
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Did she do that at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum website?
Yeah
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Yeah
Oh, that's right.
She found a newspaper article about big, tall, glasses-wearing Gloria Little's wedding to her six-foot-tall husband (Mr. Calvery) which mentioned that William Shelley was best man.
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Oh, that's right.
She found a newspaper article about big, tall, glasses-wearing Gloria Little's wedding to her six-foot-tall husband (Mr. Calvery) which mentioned that William Shelley was best man.
On September 17th 2015 on the "Who Saw Baker Enter The TSBD" thread, Linda proposed the ID for Gloria on Elm Street.
This is the pic from that post:
(https://i.postimg.cc/1tBDfzQ5/lindagloria.png) (https://postimages.org/)
If I remember rightly she was way ahead of everyone in making the ID.
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On September 17th 2015 on the "Who Saw Baker Enter The TSBD" thread, Linda proposed the ID for Gloria on Elm Street.
This is the pic from that post:
(https://i.postimg.cc/1tBDfzQ5/lindagloria.png) (https://postimages.org/)
If I remember rightly she was way ahead of everyone in making the ID.
Even after Linda found the newspaper article about Calvery's wedding, she still thought Calvery might be the tall, thin gal wearing a white blouse and a reddish plaid skirt closer to the TSBD.
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Even after Linda found the newspaper article about Calvery's wedding, she still thought Calvery might be the tall, thin gal wearing a white blouse and a reddish plaid skirt closer to the TSBD.
But she was still the first to identify Gloria as the woman in the black headscarf way before anyone had even come close to it.