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Title: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Duncan MacRae on November 22, 2024, 09:23:18 AM
Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor

Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Richard Smith on November 22, 2024, 04:07:09 PM
The rifle is the most important piece of evidence in this case.  Once you accept that it was owned by LHO - as proven beyond all doubt by a variety of evidence from various different sources - and used to kill JFK, the curtain is drawn back and this becomes a very simple case even if every detail can't be proven with absolute certainty.  We can't possibly know everything in this case or any criminal case because they are certain things known only by the perpetrator and some matters can only be surmised by logic and common sense, but the bottom line remains that LHO is the only person known to possess this rifle.  He made an unusual trip to the location where it was stored the night before the assassination.  He carried a long package to work the next morning which has never been associated with any other item than the rifle.  If there were any doubt, the rifle was found on the 6th floor - the location from which witnesses confirm that the shots were fired.  LHO had an opportunity to explain why his rifle was in the TSBD that day.  Instead he lied and denied ownership.  It's a drumbeat of guilt. 
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Jack Nessan on November 23, 2024, 06:20:00 PM
The rifle is the most important piece of evidence in this case.  Once you accept that it was owned by LHO - as proven beyond all doubt by a variety of evidence from various different sources - and used to kill JFK, the curtain is drawn back and this becomes a very simple case even if every detail can't be proven with absolute certainty.  We can't possibly know everything in this case or any criminal case because they are certain things known only by the perpetrator and some matters can only be surmised by logic and common sense, but the bottom line remains that LHO is the only person known to possess this rifle.  He made an unusual trip to the location where it was stored the night before the assassination.  He carried a long package to work the next morning which has never been associated with any other item than the rifle.  If there were any doubt, the rifle was found on the 6th floor - the location from which witnesses confirm that the shots were fired.  LHO had an opportunity to explain why his rifle was in the TSBD that day.  Instead he lied and denied ownership.  It's a drumbeat of guilt.

There actually is really very little physical evidence. The rest of the understanding of the assassination is proven by the information provided by the analysis of the shells. Josiah Thompson was aware of the answer and detailed it in his book Six Seconds in Dallas. He chose not to believe it and used it to try an advance a conspiracy theory. Even Josiah understood that two shots from the sixth floor proved there was not a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Jack Trojan on December 01, 2024, 12:33:46 AM
What a joke. You can't authenticate a photo without examining its negative and even then the negatives must not be cut from the reel. The WC only had 1 negative for CE 133-B and not the money shot CE 133-A, which somehow went missing like much of the evidence in this case. Dallas police evidently found three negatives and at least two prints. The WC got only two prints and only one negative. There were at least 6 photos that Marina couldn't recall taking that turned up in the darndest places. So Marina must have been lying and didn't take all the photos, especially CE 133-A.

Roscoe White and the DPD were behind the BYPs and Roscoe was very familiar with darkroom shenanigans. The BYPs were part of Oswald's sheep-dipping and the DPD's aim was to leak a photo showing Oswald with the alleged murder weapons and commie literature to frame him as the patsy. The scope was left on the rifle to match the BYPs, otherwise, it wasn't even sighted in and more than useless to Oswald. Only CE 133-A was good enough quality to read the font on the commie lit, which is why it had to be shot with a different camera and not by Marina. Conspiracy?

The DPD's incriminating connections to the BYPs included backyard re-enactments and a darkroom cutout created from a negative that appeared out of no where and was never admitted into evidence. Clearly, CE 133-A is the smoking anomaly here since its quality does not match the other photos, which couldn't be achieved with the Imperial Reflex 620 camera (CE 750). CE 133-A does not have the same lens distortion as the other photos; in particular the spherical aberration of CE 133-A does not match the other photos.  Spherical aberration occurs outside the "sweet spot" of a lens where the image has minimal distortion. Good lenses have less spherical aberration and CE 133-A had to be taken with a decent lens. CE 133-A was obviously the "money shot" and not taken with the Imperial Reflex camera. CE 133-A was taken shortly before CE 133-C but with a better quality camera and not from the same exact location. Perhaps it was taken with the Minox spy camera that was found among Oswald's possessions. At any rate, it was not taken by Marina and clearly intended to show Oswald with the murder weapons and his commie ties, whether he realized he was being sheep-dipped or not.

I created the following blended GIF to demonstrate the glaring differences in distortion between CE 133-A & C. In particular, the discrepancy with the focus and spherical aberration between these 2 photos is so obvious  that without a doubt they were taken with different cameras/lenses, yet they were still authenticated by the RIT Professor, whatever that means. I suppose the cutout and the re-enactment photos were authentic too. But what were they intended for? To authenticate the conspiracy?

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Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Tim Nickerson on December 08, 2024, 01:54:09 AM
What a joke. You can't authenticate a photo without examining its negative and even then the negatives must not be cut from the reel. The WC only had 1 negative for CE 133-B and not the money shot CE 133-A, which somehow went missing like much of the evidence in this case. Dallas police evidently found three negatives and at least two prints. The WC got only two prints and only one negative. There were at least 6 photos that Marina couldn't recall taking that turned up in the darndest places. So Marina must have been lying and didn't take all the photos, especially CE 133-A.

"(239) In the Lee Harvey Oswald backyard photographs identified as 133A Stovall, 133A de Mohrenschildt, and CE-134, that same gouge is quite visible and can be measured and compared with the gouge on the questioned rifle. They are  identical in every respect. (240) Based upon this system of identification, the rifle in these photographs can be positively identified as the same rifle that is pres- ently in the custody of the National Archives. Finally, it should be noted that although an FBI expert declined to make a positive identi-fication of the rifle in question based upon this gouge mark, this expert did not have access to all of the same quality photographic prints that were available to the Panel. For example, the 133A de Mohrenschildt and I33A Stovall prints, both of which are of high quality, were ob-tained and reviewed by the committee in 1977 and 1978 respectively. This was the first time that these materials were analyzed. In addition, positive identification of the rifle was based upon an examination of CE-134, a very good enlargement (from the original negative) of CE-133A.* The FBI's expert in 1964, however, apparently did not consider this photograph in reaching his conclusion."
HSCA 6 p107.
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Richard Smith on December 08, 2024, 02:25:45 PM
There actually is really very little physical evidence. The rest of the understanding of the assassination is proven by the information provided by the analysis of the shells. Josiah Thompson was aware of the answer and detailed it in his book Six Seconds in Dallas. He chose not to believe it and used it to try an advance a conspiracy theory. Even Josiah understood that two shots from the sixth floor proved there was not a conspiracy.

There is plenty of evidence from a variety of different sources to link Oswald to the rifle found on the 6th floor.  The rifle used to assassinate JFK.  The only person ever associated with that rifle is LHO.  Once that is accepted as fact, this becomes a very simple case.
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Louis Earl on December 09, 2024, 05:23:28 PM
Assume the pose of the man in the BYP and hold it for a count of 5.  Gravity will win. 
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Charles Collins on December 09, 2024, 06:33:56 PM
Assume the pose of the man in the BYP and hold it for a count of 5.  Gravity will win.

Nonsense, I am 71 years old, in no shape at all, and have no problem holding a rifle weighing at least a pound more than that one in the same pose as the backyard photo shows for much longer than a count of five.  8)
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Royell Storing on December 10, 2024, 01:40:25 PM
There is plenty of evidence from a variety of different sources to link Oswald to the rifle found on the 6th floor.  The rifle used to assassinate JFK.  The only person ever associated with that rifle is LHO.  Once that is accepted as fact, this becomes a very simple case.

   If you had previously tried to assassinate someone with that same rifle, and then it was used to kill a POTUS, you too would probably deny ownership of said rifle during the hub-bub following your suddenly being corralled inside a theater/rendezvous. Oswald certainly was involved in the assassination. He probably built that wall of boxes hiding the sniper's nest from view on the 6th floor. His rifle was stolen from the Paine garage and used during the JFK Assassination while he was calmly sitting inside the lunchroom on the 2nd floor. He's certainly no saint, but he did not fire that Carcano from the sniper's nest on the 6th floor and then hide the rifle that he knew was tied to him on the same floor only feet from the sniper's nest that he constructed. Makes absolutely no sense. None
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Richard Smith on December 10, 2024, 05:43:42 PM
   If you had previously tried to assassinate someone with that same rifle, and then it was used to kill a POTUS, you too would probably deny ownership of said rifle during the hub-bub following your suddenly being corralled inside a theater/rendezvous. Oswald certainly was involved in the assassination. He probably built that wall of boxes hiding the sniper's nest from view on the 6th floor. His rifle was stolen from the Paine garage and used during the JFK Assassination while he was calmly sitting inside the lunchroom on the 2nd floor. He's certainly no saint, but he did not fire that Carcano from the sniper's nest on the 6th floor and then hide the rifle that he knew was tied to him on the same floor only feet from the sniper's nest that he constructed. Makes absolutely no sense. None

I'm not sure why the actions of someone who decided to shoot the president from a building has to make "sense."  No rational person would do that.  Oswald was faced with two options.   First, assassinate the president and be killed or arrested for the act.  Second, not to assassinate the president.  There is no third option where he commits this act and gets away with it.   His arrest or death is baked into the calculation to commit the crime.  He knew that.  That is why he left his wedding ring and most of his money with his wife.  If he was going to pull the trigger, he was going to jail or die.  Hiding the rifle better wouldn't matter even if there was a way to do that.  And there wasn't.  Putting it behind some boxes buys him a little more time to flee.  The authorities would have had no idea at the time they were asking Oswald about his rifle that he used it in the Walker attempt.  That doesn't make any sense as a basis to deny ownership.   
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Royell Storing on December 10, 2024, 06:16:05 PM
I'm not sure why the actions of someone who decided to shoot the president from a building has to make "sense."  No rational person would do that.  Oswald was faced with two options.   First, assassinate the president and be killed or arrested for the act.  Second, not to assassinate the president.  There is no third option where he commits this act and gets away with it.   His arrest or death is baked into the calculation to commit the crime.  He knew that.  That is why he left his wedding ring and most of his money with his wife.  If he was going to pull the trigger, he was going to jail or die.  Hiding the rifle better wouldn't matter even if there was a way to do that.  And there wasn't.  Putting it behind some boxes buys him a little more time to flee.  The authorities would have had no idea at the time they were asking Oswald about his rifle that he used it in the Walker attempt.  That doesn't make any sense as a basis to deny ownership.

   The "sense" comes into play as this was planned. Oswald's physical role being the construction of the sniper's nest. He then goes down to the 2nd floor lunch room and establishes his alibi. If arrest or death were his only 2 options, he would have brought his hand gun with him. There was a plan, and that plan included his not having any weapons on him to be found inna possible "pat down". This is why he needed to stop at his rooming house to get his hand gun. His leaving his ring/money behind were his knowing that any plan can go sideways onna dime. Onna dime was his being stopped by Tippit.   
Title: Re: Oswalds Backyard Photos Authenticated By RIT Professor
Post by: Richard Smith on December 11, 2024, 02:19:56 AM
   The "sense" comes into play as this was planned. Oswald's physical role being the construction of the sniper's nest. He then goes down to the 2nd floor lunch room and establishes his alibi. If arrest or death were his only 2 options, he would have brought his hand gun with him. There was a plan, and that plan included his not having any weapons on him to be found inna possible "pat down". This is why he needed to stop at his rooming house to get his hand gun. His leaving his ring/money behind were his knowing that any plan can go sideways onna dime. Onna dime was his being stopped by Tippit.   

Good grief.  You accept all the building blocks that link Oswald to the crime but then take an exit ramp to nowhere.  Oswald did it. It is impossible to even imagine how there could be more evidence of the fact.  He was not Mr. Magoo blundering around while he was framed.  The rifle belonged to Oswald.  That rifle was used to assassinate JFK.  That rifle was left at Oswald's place of employment.   He has no alibi for the moment of the assassination.  He fled the building, got his pistol, and shot a police officer.  It is a drumbeat of guilt.