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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on July 27, 2023, 04:14:52 PM
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/rfk-jr-disrespects-the-memory-of-his-father (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/rfk-jr-disrespects-the-memory-of-his-father)
This post examines a video in which RFK Jr. talked about the assassination and his father with Russell Brand. It’s a good example of how he uses three quotes attributed to his father to support his own current conclusion that the CIA was behind his uncle's assassination. Unfortunately, the quotes are not even solid evidence of RFK’s initial instinct, much less evidence that RFK had a basis for that instinct, as Mark Allen has concisely and effectively pointed out in this new article.
fred litwin
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The Medical Examiner who performed RFK Sr’s autopsy refuses to say Sirhan killed him. None of the witnesses testified that Sirhan was ever close enough to RFK to shoot him at point-blank range.
Kind of a big deal.
RFK admits that he never read his father’s autopsy until a few years ago.
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As nutty as RFK, Jr is about some things, he is much saner than the loons currently in power. He actually seems like a normal person compared to them. Sirhan was apprehended at the scene with the literal smoking gun still in his hand. I think some Kennedy family members want the deaths of their loved ones to be about more than a random lunatic. The MLK family has fallen into the same trap. It's unfortunate.
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As nutty as RFK, Jr is about some things, he is much saner than the loons currently in power. He actually seems like a normal person compared to them. Sirhan was apprehended at the scene with the literal smoking gun still in his hand. I think some Kennedy family members want the deaths of their loved ones to be about more than a random lunatic. The MLK family has fallen into the same trap. It's unfortunate.
I think some Kennedy family members want the deaths of their loved ones to be about more than a random lunatic. The MLK family has fallen into the same trap. It's unfortunate.
Well, why don't you show them conclusively that they are wrong? Oh, wait... you can't. Now that's unfortunate...
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I think some Kennedy family members want the deaths of their loved ones to be about more than a random lunatic. The MLK family has fallen into the same trap. It's unfortunate.
Well, why don't you show them conclusively that they are wrong? Oh, wait... you can't. Now that's unfortunate...
Why is that necessary? Sirhan was arrested at the scene with the smoking gun still in his hand. He committed the crime in full view of many witnesses. The law enforcement authorities with jurisdiction investigated the crime. Sirhan was charged and convicted having been afforded all his legal rights. The history books will forever link him to the crime. It is not necessary to convince every doubter to establish a fact. These families suffered a tragedy. They want the deaths of their loved ones to have meaning. It's understandable why they might want a different narrative. In contrast, you are a loon who applies an impossible standard of proof to these crimes.
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Why is that necessary? Sirhan was arrested at the scene with the smoking gun still in his hand. He committed the crime in full view of many witnesses. The law enforcement authorities with jurisdiction investigated the crime. Sirhan was charged and convicted having been afforded all his legal rights. The history books will forever link him to the crime. It is not necessary to convince every doubter to establish a fact. These families suffered a tragedy. They want the deaths of their loved ones to have meaning. It's understandable why they might want a different narrative. In contrast, you are a loon who applies an impossible standard of proof to these crimes.
So, you can't show them conclusively that they are wrong. You are just saying they are.... Got it! Thumb1:
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As nutty as RFK, Jr is about some things, he is much saner than the loons currently in power. He actually seems like a normal person compared to them. Sirhan was apprehended at the scene with the literal smoking gun still in his hand. I think some Kennedy family members want the deaths of their loved ones to be about more than a random lunatic. The MLK family has fallen into the same trap. It's unfortunate.
Whatever one thinks of RFK Jr, the forensic evidence strongly indicates that Sirhan wasn’t the only person who fired shots in the kitchen that night. Even Vincent Bugliosi, a former LA prosecutor, acknowledged that the case for conspiracy is strong in RFK Sr’s murder.
The Medical Examiner til this day doesn’t believe Sirhan could have killed RFK Sr.
Obviously, the evidence that there was a conspiracy doesn’t exonerate Sirhan given that he was there with a gun in his hand. And that was basically Kamala Harris’ rationale for denying him a new trial (back when she was a CA Prosecutor).
When Sirhan was originally on trial, his lawyers didn’t challenge the evidence. Their goal was to get him to plead guilty in order to keep him from getting the Death Penalty. But since the 70s, it has been well documented that the LAPD destroyed evidence and that there were too many shots fired for Sirhan to have been the only shooter.
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“Richard” knows better than every one of them. Because. . .well, he’s “Richard”.
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So, you can't show them conclusively that they are wrong. You are just saying they are.... Got it! Thumb1:
Did you miss the part about Sirhan being apprehended at the scene with the smoking gun in his hand etc.? Instead of snide personal remarks, why not ever address the substance of the discussion? Are you suggesting that there is doubt of Sirhan's guilt? You haven't even stated your position. That is how normal people have discussions.
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Did you miss the part about Sirhan being apprehended at the scene with the smoking gun in his hand etc.? Instead of snide personal remarks, why not ever address the substance of the discussion? Are you suggesting that there is doubt of Sirhan's guilt? You haven't even stated your position. That is how normal people have discussions.
That is how normal people have discussions.
As you always ignore completely what others say and thus never have a proper discussion.... does that mean that you are not normal?
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Did you miss the part about Sirhan being apprehended at the scene with the smoking gun in his hand etc.? Instead of snide personal remarks, why not ever address the substance of the discussion? Are you suggesting that there is doubt of Sirhan's guilt? You haven't even stated your position. That is how normal people have discussions.
Obviously, Sirhan was involved. No one argues that he wasn't involved. It's a strawman argument to suggest that anyone denies that Sirhan was involved.
However, the evidence strongly indicates that others were involved and that Sirhan probably didn't kill RFK Sr.
Washington Post:
Several other witnesses also said he was not close enough to place the gun against Kennedy’s back, where famed Los Angeles coroner Thomas Noguchi found powder burns on the senator’s jacket and on his hair, indicating shots fired at close contact. These witnesses provided more proof for those who insist a second gunman was involved.
Schrade believes that Sirhan shot him and the others who were wounded but that he did not kill Kennedy. Since 1974, Schrade has led the crusade to try to persuade authorities — the police, prosecutors, the feds, anyone — to reinvestigate the case and identify the second gunman.
“Yes, he did shoot me. Yes, he shot four other people and aimed at Kennedy,” Schrade said in an interview at his Laurel Canyon home. “The important thing is he did not shoot Robert Kennedy. Why didn’t they go after the second gunman? They knew about him right away. They didn’t want to know who it was. They wanted a quickie.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/05/26/who-killed-bobby-kennedy-his-son-rfk-jr-doesnt-believe-it-was-sirhan-sirhan/
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If RFK Jr listened to his father's friend Paul Schrade, who also was shot in the kitchen that night, and read the autopsy, he's not disrespecting his father's memory. He's seeking the truth about his father's murder.
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The Medical Examiner who performed RFK Sr’s autopsy refuses to say Sirhan killed him. None of the witnesses testified that Sirhan was ever close enough to RFK to shoot him at point-blank range.
Kind of a big deal.
RFK admits that he never read his father’s autopsy until a few years ago.
Though I'm no RFK, Jr. fan, the points you shared here with the rest of us, Mr. Banks, are sensible and should be noted, especially, quote ---->
The Medical Examiner who performed RFK Sr’s autopsy refuses to say Sirhan killed him. None of the witnesses testified that Sirhan was ever close enough to RFK to shoot him at point-blank range.
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Though I'm no RFK, Jr. fan, the points you shared here with the rest of us, Mr. Banks, are sensible and should be noted, especially, quote ---->
The Medical Examiner who performed RFK Sr’s autopsy refuses to say Sirhan killed him. None of the witnesses testified that Sirhan was ever close enough to RFK to shoot him at point-blank range.
Thanks. I’ve long found it to be strange that RFK’s assassination doesn’t get more attention given that the forensic evidence strongly indicates multiple shooters. There were also many witnesses who saw Sirhan accompanied by an unidentified woman shortly before the shooting. How he knew how to get past security and where to wait for RFK are questions the official accounts can’t answer.
Lisa Pease wrote a solid book about RFK’s assassination and Shane O’Sullivan’s film “RFK Must Die” isn’t bad. Both have their strengths and weaknesses but they give a pretty good overview of the case and the problems with the official story…
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Thanks. I’ve long found it to be strange that RFK’s assassination doesn’t get more attention given that the forensic evidence strongly indicates multiple shooters. There were also many witnesses who saw Sirhan accompanied by an unidentified woman shortly before the shooting. How he knew how to get past security and where to wait for RFK are questions the official accounts can’t answer.
Lisa Pease wrote a solid book about RFK’s assassination and Shane O’Sullivan’s film “RFK Must Die” isn’t bad. Both have their strengths and weaknesses but they give a pretty good overview of the case and the problems with the official story…
Two excellent resources @ Ms. Pease and Mr. O'Sullivan for their exemplary research to shed some light & truth on the RFK case. The lady in the polka dot dress has always intrigued researchers, leaving more than a few wondering what essentially was her role that fateful night in June, 1968. I've always wondered how RFK's fatal wound from behind him could have been caused by Sirhan who was positioned in front of him. Guess when it comes to the Kennedys their alleged assassins seem to have an arsenal of "magic" bullets that defy reality.
It may take another century (100 yrs) before we see the likes of the courage and conviction of men like Dwight David Eisenhower, the Kennedys, Dr. King, John Lennon, etc. All we have at present is a sh*t-show masquerading as a free republic as we are constantly bombarded over the years with the main-stream-media's nonsense about Obama's birth-certificate; Hillary's emails; Trump's indictments; Hunter Biden's issues, etc. What the h*ll does any of that scripted, self-serving nonsense have to do with an open and Free Press to report on everyday issues affecting everyday Americans?
Perhaps our open & free democracy died on Friday, November 22, 1963. Perhaps RFK's murder was to ensure it wouldn't reignite.