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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Walt Cakebread on March 31, 2022, 11:07:25 PM
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If your research is based on Lee Oswald's aware and knowing involvement in the murder of President Kennedy, then you're never going to find the truth behind the assassination. i
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It's only a mystery if you accept the information presented by the DPD and the FBI as factual information.
Most things are a mystery if you eliminate consideration of the evidence. Do you still believe those red rings were a signal to LBJ? That one always gives me a good laugh.
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Most things are a mystery if you eliminate consideration of the evidence. Do you still believe those red rings were a signal to LBJ? That one always gives me a good laugh.
Simpletons laugh at that which seems impossible to them.... There would be no magicians if there were no suckers that they could trick..... I'm happy to see that you admit that you're one of the simple suckers.....
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If your research is based on Lee Oswald's aware and knowing involvement in the murder of President Kennedy, then you're never going to find the truth behind the assassination.
Mytton, Smith and the other lynchers always point to the exposure that Oswald had to the press [Like the cops weren't twisting his arm or anything] --Oswald would have told the world the truth about the hit that went down-- He had his chance they continue to claim. An assumption that Oswald knew anything at all.... Like a patsy is supposed to know anything at all.
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Mytton, Smith and the other lynchers always point to the exposure that Oswald had to the press [Like the cops weren't twisting his arm or anything] --Oswald would have told the world the truth about the hit that went down-- He had his chance they continue to claim. An assumption that Oswald knew anything at all.... Like a patsy is supposed to know anything at all.
Very silly. Oswald wanted historical credit not legal responsibility for his act. He had no intention of helping the authorities send him to the electric chair. He had no idea that he had less than 48 hours to live after the assassination. For all Oswald knew, he had years to tell the world the truth. It was the only card that he still held to avoid being sentenced to death. He was not going to give that away until he had legal counsel and an opportunity to cut a deal.
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Simpletons laugh at that which seems impossible to them.... There would be no magicians if there were no suckers that they could trick..... I'm happy to see that you admit that you're one of the simple suckers.....
This from the guy who believes that the red rings on the TSBD were a secret signal to LBJ. This despite news articles from decades prior to the assassination that confirm that the rings were related to fire safety. Imagine the scenario behind this wild theory. Someone has to paint the red rings on the windows. How they do this unnoticed is unclear. Why this is necessary is also unclear. Does LBJ need advance notice of the assassination if he is "in" on the plot? Wouldn't he know the assassination was happening when he heard the shots? Wouldn't there be an easier way to notify him instead of painting rings on the building from which the shots were fired? As I recall, Walt also believes someone removed the rings after the assassination. This is far out tin foil stuff.
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Oswald wanted historical credit not legal responsibility for his act.
Held a seance with him did you?
Pure conjecture.
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This from the guy who believes that the red rings on the TSBD were a secret signal to LBJ. This despite news articles from decades prior to the assassination that confirm that the rings were related to fire safety. Imagine the scenario behind this wild theory. Someone has to paint the red rings on the windows. How they do this unnoticed is unclear. Why this is necessary is also unclear. Does LBJ need advance notice of the assassination if he is "in" on the plot? Wouldn't he know the assassination was happening when he heard the shots? Wouldn't there be an easier way to notify him instead of painting rings on the building from which the shots were fired? As I recall, Walt also believes someone removed the rings after the assassination. This is far out tin foil stuff.
You're simply revealing that you're a simple minded fool.....
"news articles from decades prior to the assassination that confirm that the rings were related to fire safety."
My dear little simpleton....Please explain how all of the red rings in the TSBD windows could have done anything but confuse the firemen who might have responded to a fire alarm at the TSBD.....
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Held a seance with him did you?
Pure conjecture.
That's rich coming from the guy who just wrote this: "Oswald would have told the world the truth about the hit that went down." Did you need a Ouija board to make that statement? I'm just responding to your statement about what Oswald "would" have done.
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You're simply revealing that you're a simple minded fool.....
"news articles from decades prior to the assassination that confirm that the rings were related to fire safety."
My dear little simpleton....Please explain how all of the red rings in the TSBD windows could have done anything but confuse the firemen who might have responded to a fire alarm at the TSBD.....
If you accept that the Dallas fire department used red rings on buildings for a fire safety purpose, then maybe the better question is wouldn't the use of such rings on buildings that already had red rings be a bit confusing to your conspirators? How would they know, for example, if they were there for fire purposes or as a "signal"? LOL. Keep them coming though. That is comedy gold.
I'll even add some suggested dialogue for your fiction writing:
LBJ: "Now Lady Bird if you see them yonder red rings, get down cause there gonna be some shootin' in the Big D. Hee Haw!"
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That's rich coming from the guy who just wrote this: "Oswald would have told the world the truth about the hit that went down." Did you need a Ouija board to make that statement? I'm just responding to your statement about what Oswald "would" have done.
I'm just responding to your statement about what Oswald "would" have done.
By telling us what Oswald was thinking and what he wanted, which, of course, is something you don't know and can not know.
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I'm just responding to your statement about what Oswald "would" have done.
By telling us what Oswald was thinking and what he wanted, which, of course, is something you don't know and can not know.
LOL. How about directing this to Jerry who started this discussion by telling us what Oswald "would" have done?
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LOL. How about directing this to Jerry who started this discussion by telling us what Oswald "would" have done?
Actually he didn't.
He merely stated what "Mytton, Smith and the other lynchers ...... <>.... continue to claim."
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Actually he didn't.
He merely stated what "Mytton, Smith and the other lynchers ...... <>.... continue to claim."
Wrong. You do realize his unedited post is still there to read without your dishonest omissions?
"Oswald would have told the world the truth about the hit that went down"
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Wrong. You do realize his unedited post is still there to read without your dishonest omissions?
"Oswald would have told the world the truth about the hit that went down"
Are you really this dense? That's the quote he tributed to "Mytton, Smith and the other lynchers"
It wasn't a statement of his own opinion.
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If you accept that the Dallas fire department used red rings on buildings for a fire safety purpose, then maybe the better question is wouldn't the use of such rings on buildings that already had red rings be a bit confusing to your conspirators? How would they know, for example, if they were there for fire purposes or as a "signal"? LOL. Keep them coming though. That is comedy gold.
I'll even add some suggested dialogue for your fiction writing:
LBJ: "Now Lady Bird if you see them yonder red rings, get down cause there gonna be some shootin' in the Big D. Hee Haw!"
If you accept that the Dallas fire department used red rings on buildings for a fire safety purpose, then maybe the better question is wouldn't the use of such rings on buildings that already had red rings be a bit confusing to your conspirators?
Please post a photo that shows red rings in the windows of any other building in Dallas on 11-22-63
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The Site Of the Most Shocking Single Event Of Our Time
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/11/21/archives/the-site-of-the-most-shocking-single-event-of-our-time-dallas-and.html
By Gary Cartwright
Nov. 21, 1971
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"As you move away from the map and plaque and head northward toward the Depository, you spot the window from which Oswald fired. It is on the sixth floor at the righthand (southeast) corner, to the right of and one row above a window marked with a red circle., (The circle designates a fire lane—an upper entrance that must be kept free of obstructions to allow the Fire Department to enter; similar circles can be found on buildings all over Dallas.)"
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The Site Of the Most Shocking Single Event Of Our Time
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/11/21/archives/the-site-of-the-most-shocking-single-event-of-our-time-dallas-and.html
By Gary Cartwright
Nov. 21, 1971
[EXCERPT]
"As you move away from the map and plaque and head northward toward the Depository, you spot the window from which Oswald fired. It is on the sixth floor at the righthand (southeast) corner, to the right of and one row above a window marked with a red circle., (The circle designates a fire lane—an upper entrance that must be kept free of obstructions to allow the Fire Department to enter; similar circles can be found on buildings all over Dallas.)"
"It is on the sixth floor at the righthand (southeast) corner, to the right of and one row above a window marked with a red circle.,"
One row down and one row west of the 6th flor SE corner window places a red ring above Junior Jarman's head ...JJ was kneeling behind the third open window from the east end of the 5th floor.....Ther was infact a red ring above his head and to the left of Jarman. Many photos show that there were five other red rings in the 5th , 6th, and seventh floor windows..(2 rings on 5th, 3 rings on 6th, and 1 red ring on 7th floors)
How would a fireman know which window was the escape window?? Many photos reveal that the area behind the windows was NOT clear of obstructions....
Go try blowing yer smoke on someone who is gullible enough to believe your BS!
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"It is on the sixth floor at the righthand (southeast) corner, to the right of and one row above a window marked with a red circle.,"
One row down and one row west of the 6th flor SE corner window places a red ring above Junior Jarman's head ...JJ was kneeling behind the third open window from the east end of the 5th floor.....Ther was infact a red ring above his head and to the left of Jarman. Many photos show that there were five other red rings in the 5th , 6th, and seventh floor windows..(2 rings on 5th, 3 rings on 6th, and 1 red ring on 7th floors)
How would a fireman know which window was the escape window?? Many photos reveal that the area behind the windows was NOT clear of obstructions....
Go try blowing yer smoke on someone who is gullible enough to believe your BS!
Gary Mack and others have explained this to you more times than I can count. The fact that you don't accept it is your problem. There is no doubt whatsoever that the red rings or circles are related to fire safety. Here is the relevant explanation from "Assassination and Commemoration" by Stephen Fagin:
"a painted red circle - actually a Dallas Fire Department indicator noting where to access the building from a ladder truck"
"all downtown buildings had sported similar red circles on upper floor windows."
Fagin cites a May 9, 1941 Dallas Morning News article "Fire Hazards infest Dallas, speaker warns".
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Gary Mack and others have explained this to you more times than I can count. The fact that you don't accept it is your problem. There is no doubt whatsoever that the red rings or circles are related to fire safety. Here is the relevant explanation from "Assassination and Commemoration" by Stephen Fagin:
"a painted red circle - actually a Dallas Fire Department indicator noting where to access the building from a ladder truck"
"all downtown buildings had sported similar red circles on upper floor windows."
Fagin cites a May 9, 1941 Dallas Morning News article "Fire Hazards infest Dallas, speaker warns".
"a painted red circle - actually a Dallas Fire Department indicator noting where to access the building from a ladder truck"
A "painted" red circle ( singular) ......There were multiple red circles in the windows of the TSBD ( THREE on the 6th floor ) And it's clear ( see Tom Dillard's photo) . that the eastern most circle on the sixth floor was NOT unobstructed.
And by examining the photo taken by Jim Murray ( page 523 POTP) it's very clear that the red ring in the window ( 2nd window from east end on 5th floor) above Junior Jarman's head in Tom Dillard' s 12:30 photo has been removed when Jim Murray took the photo of Sergeant Gerald Hill leaning ou of a sixth floor window. IOW... The "painted on" red ring that was there at 12:30 had been removed by 1:10.
"all downtown buildings had sported similar red circles on upper floor windows."
Show me a photo from 11/22/63 that shows another building in Dallas that had a red ring in an upper floor window....
Fagin cites a May 9, 1941 Dallas Morning News article "Fire Hazards infest Dallas, speaker warns".
1941!!!.... This was shortly before Pearl Harbor...... and there were rumors of enemy planes having the ability to bomb US cities..... Which would have created fire hazardsin many tall buildings that were not equipped with fire escapes. Which raises a real conundrum for you.... Why would the TSBD need RED RINGS to identify fire escape routes, when the building was equipped with a fire escape on the east side of the building??
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"a painted red circle - actually a Dallas Fire Department indicator noting where to access the building from a ladder truck"
A "painted" red circle ( singular) ......There were multiple red circles in the windows of the TSBD ( THREE on the 6th floor ) And it's clear ( see Tom Dillard's photo) . that the eastern most circle on the sixth floor was NOT unobstructed.
And by examining the photo taken by Jim Murray ( page 523 POTP) it's very clear that the red ring in the window ( 2nd window from east end on 5th floor) above Junior Jarman's head in Tom Dillard' s 12:30 photo has been removed when Jim Murray took the photo of Sergeant Gerald Hill leaning ou of a sixth floor window. IOW... The "painted on" red ring that was there at 12:30 had been removed by 1:10.
"all downtown buildings had sported similar red circles on upper floor windows."
Show me a photo from 11/22/63 that shows another building in Dallas that had a red ring in an upper floor window....
Fagin cites a May 9, 1941 Dallas Morning News article "Fire Hazards infest Dallas, speaker warns".
1941!!!.... This was shortly before Pearl Harbor...... and there were rumors of enemy planes having the ability to bomb US cities..... Which would have created fire hazardsin many tall buildings that were not equipped with fire escapes. Which raises a real conundrum for you.... Why would the TSBD need RED RINGS to identify fire escape routes, when the building was equipped with a fire escape on the east side of the building??
You are taking issue with whether red circle is singular or plural while ignoring the documented evidence that such circles were painted on Dallas buildings? And then discussing Pearl Harbor? Wow. Can you understand that even if you disagree that they were necessary, that these red rings were still used by the Dallas Fire Department? No one has to explain or be an historian of Dallas fire safety practices to confirm that the red circles were used for that purpose.
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Maybe the shooter was hypnotized by the MK ultra project to respond to red circles? 😵💫
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You are taking issue with whether red circle is singular or plural while ignoring the documented evidence that such circles were painted on Dallas buildings? And then discussing Pearl Harbor? Wow. Can you understand that even if you disagree that they were necessary, that these red rings were still used by the Dallas Fire Department? No one has to explain or be an historian of Dallas fire safety practices to confirm that the red circles were used for that purpose.
You are taking issue with whether red circle is singular or plural while ignoring the documented evidence that such circles were painted on Dallas buildings?
My dear thick skulled dufus, .....The point is: You cite a fire department directive that was issued in May of 1941, over twenty three years prior to November of 1963...And the directive was for buildings over six stories tall and were not equipped with exterior fire escapes.
AND that directive stated that there should be ONE window designated as a fire escape window.
The TSBD had SIX windows with red rings in the windows...( The sixth floor had THREE red rings in different windows ) And one of the windows is obviously obstructed by boxes, which violates the directive.
Please explain how the firemen could know where to place their ladder?? ....
Please post a photo that shows red rings in the windows of any other building in Dallas on 11-22-63
PS.... I doubt that you'll answer the questions..... Because you can't.
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You are taking issue with whether red circle is singular or plural while ignoring the documented evidence that such circles were painted on Dallas buildings?
My dear thick skulled dufus, .....The point is: You cite a fire department directive that was issued in May of 1941, over twenty three years prior to November of 1963...And the directive was for buildings over six stories tall and were not equipped with exterior fire escapes.
AND that directive stated that there should be ONE window designated as a fire escape window.
The TSBD had SIX windows with red rings in the windows...( The sixth floor had THREE red rings in different windows ) And one of the windows is obviously obstructed by boxes, which violates the directive.
Please explain how the firemen could know where to place their ladder?? ....
Please post a photo that shows red rings in the windows of any other building in Dallas on 11-22-63
PS.... I doubt that you'll answer the questions..... Because you can't.
Again, I cited evidence confirming that red circles were used on Dallas buildings for fire safety purposes including the 1941 newspaper article that makes reference to them. Again, whether you believe that the use of the red circles for fire safety is useful or not for their intended purpose is not relevant to that issue. The fact remains that they were so used. I am not a historian of Dallas fire safety requirements that can trace the entire history of use of red circles. That is not necessary for the limited purpose of this context. We know with absolute certainty that such red circles were used for fire safety purposes. End of story.
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Again, I cited evidence confirming that red circles were used on Dallas buildings for fire safety purposes including the 1941 newspaper article that makes reference to them. Again, whether you believe that the use of the red circles for fire safety is useful or not for their intended purpose is not relevant to that issue. The fact remains that they were so used. I am not a historian of Dallas fire safety requirements that can trace the entire history of use of red circles. That is not necessary for the limited purpose of this context. We know with absolute certainty that such red circles were used for fire safety purposes. End of story.
We know with absolute certainty that such red circles were used for fire safety purposes. End of story.
Mr "Smith" said so and that settles it!.... Since you're the ultimate authority. Mr "Smith", please confirm that the FBI tested the Carcano before it was checked over by a gunsmith. Isn't it true that the FBI man refused to test fire the Carcano as it was found because of dirt and rust in the barrel?
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We know with absolute certainty that such red circles were used for fire safety purposes. End of story.
Mr "Smith" said so and that settles it!.... Since you're the ultimate authority. Mr "Smith", please confirm that the FBI tested the Carcano before it was checked over by a gunsmith. Isn't it true that the FBI man refused to test fire the Carcano as it was found because of dirt and rust in the barrel?
I didn't say so unless you believe that I transported back in time to 1941 and wrote the article in the Dallas Morning News confirming that the red circles were used on Dallas buildings for fire safety purposes.
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The red rings on the windows were (and are) a crucial clue just as Umbrella man is a crucial clue....
The red rings were studiously avoided and brushed aside ...... I believe the red rings were crucial because they were intended to remind JFK that he had betrayed the Cubans ( CIA) of the brigade at red beach at BOP.
Umbrella man was intended to remind JFK that he had "pulled the umbrella " of air cover for the Cubans at BOP.
The red rings served a dual purpose..... Remind JFK that he had betrayed the Cubans at BOP....and serve as a signal to LBJ that everything was in place for the ambush.....he just need to give the signal to go...
Far out. And what was LBJ's signal to give the "go" ahead? How did he transmit this signal to the assassin in the few seconds between when he could see the red rings and the first shot was fired?
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Far out. And what was LBJ's signal to give the "go" ahead? How did he transmit this signal to the assassin in the few seconds between when he could see the red rings and the first shot was fired?
After LBJ gave the "thumbs up" the hit team leader simply lit a big firecracker ( some folks thought it was a motorcycle backfire, while other witnesses thought the noise of the first explosion was a railroad torpedo)
Everybody in Dealy Plaza heard the "open fire" signal and reported that the first explosion sounded different than the gun shots which followed.
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After LBJ gave the "thumbs up" the hit team leader simply lit a big firecracker ( some folks thought it was a motorcycle backfire, while other witnesses thought the noise of the first explosion was a railroad torpedo)
Everybody in Dealy Plaza heard the "open fire" signal and reported that the first explosion sounded different than the gun shots which followed.
Wow. That is quite a story in which someone paints red circles on the TSBD unnoticed. LBJ has only a few seconds to see these red circles before giving the "hit team leader" a "thumbs up". Why they would wait literally to the last second for this signal is left unexplained. Why a signal is needed at all if they were already in agreement on this is also unclear. This hit team leader lights a firecracker amidst the crowd and it goes off. No one sees him do this. The assassin at some other part of DP is able to hear this signal amidst the noise of the crowd and motorcade and then shoots JFK.
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Wow. That is quite a story in which someone paints red circles on the TSBD unnoticed. LBJ has only a few seconds to see these red circles before giving the "hit team leader" a "thumbs up". Why they would wait literally to the last second for this signal is left unexplained. Why a signal is needed at all if they were already in agreement on this is also unclear. This hit team leader lights a firecracker amidst the crowd and it goes off. No one sees him do this. The assassin at some other part of DP is able to hear this signal amidst the noise of the crowd and motorcade and then shoots JFK.
This hit team leader lights a firecracker amidst the crowd and it goes off. No one sees him do this.
Read what Howard Brennan reported..... Bennan said that he got the impression that a firecracker had been tossed out a TSBD window....
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Thank You..... Been a bit "down" ....But feeling better with the returning sun and warmer weather.
I'm still very disappointed that so many researchers base their research with Lee Oswald as a major part of the equation. None of them will ever know the truth about the murder........
Glad to hear you're feeling better.
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Very silly. Oswald wanted historical credit not legal responsibility for his act. He had no intention of helping the authorities send him to the electric chair. He had no idea that he had less than 48 hours to live after the assassination. For all Oswald knew, he had years to tell the world the truth. It was the only card that he still held to avoid being sentenced to death. He was not going to give that away until he had legal counsel and an opportunity to cut a deal.
"Richard" fancies himself a Lee Oswald channeler.
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Again, I cited evidence confirming that red circles were used on Dallas buildings for fire safety purposes including the 1941 newspaper article that makes reference to them. Again, whether you believe that the use of the red circles for fire safety is useful or not for their intended purpose is not relevant to that issue. The fact remains that they were so used. I am not a historian of Dallas fire safety requirements that can trace the entire history of use of red circles. That is not necessary for the limited purpose of this context. We know with absolute certainty that such red circles were used for fire safety purposes. End of story.
This photo was taken in March 1962. Enlarge the photo and you'll see that the circles are in the windows. Amazing how the conspirators knew that Kennedy would be traveling through Dealey more than a year later. ::)
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This photo was taken in March 1962. Enlarge the photo and you'll see that the circles are in the windows. Amazing how the conspirators knew that Kennedy would be traveling through Dealey more than a year later. ::)
(https://img71.pixhost.to/images/6/278436464_mar62.jpg)
Where is the date on the photo? Tress in full leaf in March?
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Where is the date on the photo? Tress in full leaf in March?
March 16th, to be exact. And notice the "Carraway" sign above the entrance. That alone tells you it's well before the assassination.
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth618976/m1/1/
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March 16th, to be exact. And notice the "Carraway" sign above the entrance. That alone tells you it's well before the assassination.
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth618976/m1/1/
I don't doubt that the photo was taken prior to 1//22/63..... ( the latticed brickwork has not yet been erected in front of the TSBD windows ) but that doesn't mean that the photo is authentic. Photos are altered all of the time ....
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I don't doubt that the photo was taken prior to 1//22/63..... ( the latticed brickwork has not yet been erected in front of the TSBD windows ) but that doesn't mean that the photo is authentic. Photos are altered all of the time ....
Photos are altered all of the time ....
In every topic this happens CT's demand evidence and when evidence is provided;
photos are altered all the time,
cops always lie, remember George Floyd,
Lineups are unreliable,
Eyewitness testimony can/can't be relied upon,
The FBI can't be trusted because of Hoover.
The FBI forensic experts can be trusted, just because,
Marina lied except when she didn't,
The Autopsy doctors lied except when they don't.
Yawn.
JohnM
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Not nearly as often as the “Oswald did it” faithful rattling off a list of claims based on speculation and calling it “evidence”.
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In every topic this happens CT's demand evidence and when evidence is provided;
photos are altered all the time,
cops always lie, remember George Floyd,
Lineups are unreliable,
Eyewitness testimony can/can't be relied upon,
The FBI can't be trusted because of Hoover.
The FBI forensic experts can be trusted, just because,
Marina lied except when she didn't,
The Autopsy doctors lied except when they don't.
Yawn.
JohnM
It is the endless Catch 22 of lunacy. A CTer makes a baseless and absurd claim. When this is pointed out to them, they request evidence to rebut their claim. When that is provided, they reject the evidence as faked (without providing a scintilla of evidence that it is faked much less who and how it was faked). Even if the evidence preexisted the assassination by years or even decades it is deemed suspect. The baseless claim is then repeated impervious to facts, common sense, evidence, or logical inference.
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Pot, kettle
The “Oswald did it” faithful also say that witnesses lied except when they didn’t, that a forensic pathology expert can’t be trusted, just because, and that eyewitness testimony can’t be relied on, etc, when it serves their purposes.
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It is the endless Catch 22 of lunacy. A CTer makes a baseless and absurd claim. When this is pointed out to them, they request evidence to rebut their claim. When that is provided, they reject the evidence as faked (without providing a scintilla of evidence that it is faked much less who and how it was faked). Even if the evidence preexisted the assassination by years or even decades it is deemed suspect. The baseless claim is then repeated impervious to facts, common sense, evidence, or logical inference.
Common sense!..... Something you lack.
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Common sense!..... Something you lack.
Sean provided a photo taken in March 1962 that shows the red rings in the TSBD windows. Common sense (not to mention our own eyes) therefore confirms these red rings were not placed there on 11.22 as a "signal" to anyone. A person interested in an honest discussion of the case (who also had common sense) would now acknowledge that there is no validity to that claim. Instead of meaningless babble, do you have a photo of the TSBD taken prior to 11.22 that does not show the red rings in these windows or anything to support your otherwise baseless and bizarre theory?
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Sean provided a photo taken in March 1962 that shows the red rings in the TSBD windows. Common sense (not to mention our own eyes) therefore confirms these red rings were not placed there on 11.22 as a "signal" to anyone. A person interested in an honest discussion of the case (who also had common sense) would now acknowledge that there is no validity to that claim. Instead of meaningless babble, do you have a photo of the TSBD taken prior to 11.22 that does not show the red rings in these windows or anything to support your otherwise baseless and bizarre theory?
Who has proof that there were red rings in the windows of the TSBD in March of 62??
Honestly I can't see any rings in the windows..... And photos are very easy to alter.
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Who has proof that there were red rings in the windows of the TSBD in March of 62??
Honestly I can't see any rings in the windows..... And photos are very easy to alter.
Why would anyone place circles on a photo from 1962, just because of the rants of one man with a really, really, really obscure JFKA theory.
JohnM
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Maybe the window removed by Harold Byrd,, the owner of the TSBD (and he being a good friend of LBJ) may explain one the red circles disappearing?
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Who has proof that there were red rings in the windows of the TSBD in March of 62??
Honestly I can't see any rings in the windows..... And photos are very easy to alter.
The red rings on the 7th floor are clearly visible. The fact that photos can be altered is not evidence that they were altered. Again, though, do you have photos of the TSBD taken before 11.22 that do not show the rings or not?
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The red rings on the 7th floor are clearly visible. The fact that photos can be altered is not evidence that they were altered. Again, though, do you have photos of the TSBD taken before 11.22 that do not show the rings or not?
If It's important to you.... There are photos ....
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that box placed on the 6th/SE window ledge approx 30 secs after Bonnie Ray Williams left that window at 12:24 is an illogical thing for a shooter to have done, since it’s precariously balance at an angle rather than level and parallel on the inside of the window frame.
I don’t see how it was practically used as a rifle rest because the shooter would have had a very awkward stance.
And if the purpose was to block sunlight then a parallel to the wall arrangement would do much better than this odd angled boxes and risking unnecessarily the box balanced precariously falling out the window.
So the propose of the box in the window placed at an angle so the corner sticks out on the window ledge may be for some other purpose.
The gunman seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland was not apparently intending to use any boxes so it’s seems a bit ridiculous for this gunman to be hastily at the last minute placing boxes at the SE window at 12:24:30 , risking drawing attention and suspicion of any SS FBI, DPD, etc in the Dealey plaza area.
It’s seems to defy probability that no experienced security authority noticed the one window at the SE high 6th floor corner of the TSBD had been lowered from its halfway open position when BRW at that window at 12:20 , to a 1/4 open position by 12:25.
Nor did they notice a man moving a box onto the ledge with a corner sticking out at about 12:24:30.
Rowland stated he looked up at 12:25 and did not see BRW anymore in the 6th floor SE window. How is it Rowland missed the addition of a box on the ledge and the window lowered to 1/4th open or a man of lighter complexion at that window placing the boxes? This activity would have had to happened just between 12:24:30 and 12:25 given the Bronson film segment am starting at 12:25 shows the box in the way node and no person moving.
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that box placed on the 6th/SE window ledge approx 30 secs after Bonnie Ray Williams left that window at 12:24 is an illogical thing for a shooter to have done, since it’s precariously balance at an angle rather than level and parallel on the inside of the window frame.
I don’t see how it was practically used as a rifle rest because the shooter would have had a very awkward stance.
And if the purpose was to block sunlight then a parallel to the wall arrangement would do much better than this odd angled boxes and risking unnecessarily the box balanced precariously falling out the window.
So the propose of the box in the window placed at an angle so the corner sticks out on the window ledge may be for some other purpose.
The gunman seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland was not apparently intending to use any boxes so it’s seems a bit ridiculous for this gunman to be hastily at the last minute placing boxes at the SE window at 12:24:30 , risking drawing attention and suspicion of any SS FBI, DPD, etc in the Dealey plaza area.
It’s seems to defy probability that no experienced security authority noticed the one window at the SE high 6th floor corner of the TSBD had been lowered from its halfway open position when BRW at that window at 12:20 , to a 1/4 open position by 12:25.
Nor did they notice a man moving a box onto the ledge with a corner sticking out at about 12:24:30.
Rowland stated he looked up at 12:25 and did not see BRW anymore in the 6th floor SE window. How is it Rowland missed the addition of a box on the ledge and the window lowered to 1/4th open or a man of lighter complexion at that window placing the boxes? This activity would have had to happened just between 12:24:30 and 12:25 given the Bronson film segment am starting at 12:25 shows the box in the way node and no person moving.
Difficult to understand what you are suggesting here. That no one fired shots from the 6th floor? Witnesses confirmed that they saw a rifle pointed out that window at the moment of the assassination. Someone was there, pointed a rifle toward the JFK motorcade, and fired shots. Who do you believe was monitoring every window in downtown Dallas during the motorcade that would have observed any activity taking place behind this particular window? That is absurd. The motorcade passed tens of thousand of windows in downtown Dallas.
Many were open with people looking out of them. The fact remains that Oswald's rifle is found on the floor from which the shots were fired. His prints are on the SN boxes. The how and whys of the particular arrangement of boxes is known only to Oswald. That does not rebut the evidence that links him to this crime beyond any doubt.
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Difficult to understand what you are suggesting here. That no one fired shots from the 6th floor? Witnesses confirmed that they saw a rifle pointed out that window at the moment of the assassination. Someone was there, pointed a rifle toward the JFK motorcade, and fired shots. Who do you believe was monitoring every window in downtown Dallas during the motorcade that would have observed any activity taking place behind this particular window? That is absurd. The motorcade passed tens of thousand of windows in downtown Dallas.
Many were open with people looking out of them. The fact remains that Oswald's rifle is found on the floor from which the shots were fired. His prints are on the SN boxes. The how and whys of the particular arrangement of boxes is known only to Oswald. That does not rebut the evidence that links him to this crime beyond any doubt.
Insipid .... weak and flimsy , Mr "Smith"
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The fact remains that Oswald's rifle is found on the floor from which the shots were fired.
"fact". LOL.
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"fact". LOL.
I believe that Lee Oswald was "connected" to the Carcano that was found where it had been carefully hidden beneath a pallet that had boxes of books stacked on the pallet. ( It's obvious to me that Lee had been selected to be the scapegoat so it's logical that the bastards who were setting him up would use a rifle that could be connected to him, as the BY photo CE 133A shows)
I am NOT saying that the carcano BELONGED to Lee Oswald ..... because I do not believe he legally "OWNED" the carcano, but he did have a carcano in his possession in the spring of 1963. He and George De M ordered a cheap unusual throw down gun that could be easily traced and it was left at the scene of the Walker hoax shooting in April of 1963. And that was the reason Lee had Marina take his photo while he posed with the "communist literature" and the very distinctive Mannicher Carcano.