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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Jerry Freeman on December 29, 2020, 09:51:39 PM
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Came to my attention-----
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f45/18/51/50/61/three_10.jpg)
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To guests and newbes------
Because I don't know how to make the image fit the screen on this forum...You have to move the slider at the bottom of the picture to the right and it reveals a cop in a white hat at the steps of the building and an individual talking to him.
Who is that guy?
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Just say it, you think it looks like Oswald
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Just say it, you think it looks like Oswald
Jerry never said that or even hinted .... YOU arrived at that idea all by yourself.... And I agree, the man does look like Lee Oswald.... Perhaps one of our photo whiz kids can enlarge that without distorting it....
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Jerry never said that or even hinted .... YOU arrived at that idea all by yourself.... And I agree, the man does look like Lee Oswald.... Perhaps one of our photo whiz kids can enlarge that without distorting it....
I'm right. Get over it
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To guests and newbes------
Because I don't know how to make the image fit the screen on this forum...You have to move the slider at the bottom of the picture to the right and it reveals a cop in a white hat at the steps of the building and an individual talking to him.
Who is that guy?
It looks fine on my computer monitor and iphone. No slider there or needed.
According to Richard B. Trask, page 345 of "Pictures of the Pain", the three tramps were detained sometime after 2:19 and closer to 2:30. An arrest form for Harold Doyle was recorded at 4:00. So it appears that this photo was taken after LHO had been arrested at the Texas Theater.
The guy you are asking about looks to me to be Billy Lovelady. But it is difficult to say for sure from this photo alone. Do we have any conflicting evidence as to Lovelady's location around this point in time?
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I'm not sure what is the point but that is a weird picture. Maybe guy number three has the remains of the chicken lunch. They look like the "Woodsmen" from Twin Peaks. "Got a light"?
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No bald spot the back of the head =
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Billy Lovelady
If the time of the photo was taken is > 12:45pm, then it’s probably not Oswald as supposedly Oswald is about to get into William Walleys Taxi
If It’s between 12:45 and 12:35, it’s possible it could be Oswald, just before he was seen by Roger Craig, running down to DC man driving the Rambler station wagon, after a whistle was heard. However, the shirt does not match Craig’s description.
If it’s about 12:33, and the cop is either DPD officer Barnett, or an officer just arrived as Barnett is about to lock the front door , then its higher probability it’s Oswald just exiting , wearing just his brown shirt , and having left his blue jacket in the Domino room where it would be found about a month later.
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I'm not sure what is the point but that is a weird picture.
I've noticed that you aren't sure of much of anything.
However, I agree it is a weird photo. What is up with the old guy to the left of and behind the Fed with the suit. [I think he looks like a Fed] The old guy looks comical. ... the three tramps were detained sometime after 2:19 and closer to 2:30....about looks to me to be Billy Lovelady.
Other observers elsewhere guess a possible Lovelady idenity. It seems to me that Mr Whoever it is has a much healthier head of hair than Billy Lovelady did.
It seems that the timing of their "arrest" came from one of the tramps...Chauncey Holt---
(1) Chauncey Holt was interviewed by John Craig, Phillip Rogers and Gary Shaw for Newsweek magazine (19th October, 1991)
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKharrelson.htm
Odd also is the fact that it took 80 minutes to run down Oswald 3 miles away in Oak Cliff but took 2 entire hours to locate three tramps 100 yards away from Dealey.
A fairly accurate time could probably be determined by shadow comparison.
I'm right. Get over it
Right about what? Getting sucked into something? Won't be the last time.
I think there is another picture somewhere of the guy talking to the cop. I posted it many months ago and will look around for it.
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I think there is another picture somewhere of the guy talking to the cop. I posted it many months ago and will look around for it.
I found a video----- @ 1:42 I believe it might be the same guy that [later?] was talking to the cop. The man steps out and is looking on. Unfortunately you can only see him from the back. A cop in a white hat looks directly at him..........
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@Jerry Freeman, that quote wasn't even directed at you. Way to go using quotes totally out of context injecting yourself into a conversation to spout ad hominem.
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@Jerry Freeman, that quote wasn't even directed at you. Way to go using quotes totally out of context injecting yourself into a conversation to spout ad hominem.
Good grief..... point taken
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I'm not sure what is the point but that is a weird picture. Maybe guy number three has the remains of the chicken lunch. They look like the "Woodsmen" from Twin Peaks. "Got a light"?
Freeman: 'A cop in a white hat at the steps of the building and an individual talking to him.
Who is that guy?'
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0F1QQwK/cop-talking-on-steps.png)
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And this is a weird photo.
I believe the man in the dark suit was pasted in. I don't think it's a real person. He sure takes up a lot of real estate in that entrance. below
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgsNwLzD/blobbyman.gif)
Look at his arms and shoulders. They're all out of proportion. There's a white blob on his left shoulder, possibly an DPD inspector cap? maybe arresting, or talking to, that old fella with the strange posture below
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqYHSJpr/man3.jpg)
The face of the blobbyman doesn't even look real. Looks pasted in
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1FNwS8G/face.jpg)
And the dark skinned guy that was stood next to umbrella man. Is it him?
(https://i.postimg.cc/0N6sN5sL/dcm1.gif)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kjxwtx6c/dcm2.gif)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yKgjJ1R/5.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cCxkrT3r/6.jpg)
Billy Bass (one of the officers escorting the motley crew across the plaza says this about the time line. (from Denis Morissette's site)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zGSSDFYP/bass-hears-of-tippit.jpg)
Going by that, before 1:18pm. Board member James Hackerott posted an interesting time-lapse simulation of the shadows which indicated the photo around 2:15pm. Jim Garrison investigation did some kinda experiment to identify the time of the three tramp photos and I believe that was estimated between 2pm and 3pm
The only reason I found that person in the background who looks like Dark Complected person in this photo is because I found text of an interview with Loy Factor, in which he stated he was out front of the TSBDB with Lansdale. And at around 1:30pm. Believe it or not.
Which brings me onto Lansdale.
It's not my idea, I can't remember who first noticed the guy to the side that looks like Lansdale but I agree it looks like his image.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2518qZfT/500.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QC4yWHDk/lansdale-combined.jpg)
A lot of monkey business going on out front.
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Good find, Jerry. If someone can't enlarge the face to give a clear image could you focus on the left wrist?
When arrested Oswald was wearing a bracelet with his first name on it.
or, maybe it was this guy?
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There was an unidentified man nicknamed by researchers as... "Agent" digging around on the ground and apparently picking something up and cupping it in his hand. I just called him "The Suit".
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQETiS3ZsJ9fsvu156eZRRvzkUqFndwI_MYuQ&usqp=CAU) (https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/images/slug2.jpg)
Is the time on the Hertz sign 12:40?
Again in the DCA film @ 1:43 is that the same Suit [blonde hair] standing in front and to the right of the fire truck hands in pockets... looking around like he is definitely some kind of agent?
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According to Richard B. Trask, page 345 of "Pictures of the Pain", the three tramps were detained sometime after 2:19 and closer to 2:30. An arrest form for Harold Doyle was recorded at 4:00. So it appears that this photo was taken after LHO had been arrested at the Texas Theater.
I notice that this point (which should have immediately put an abrupt end to this thread) has been totally ignored thus far.
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I notice that this point (which should have immediately put an abrupt end to this thread) has been totally ignored thus far.
They hate it when something like that busts their bubble!
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And what was Trask’s source for that claim?
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And what was Trask’s source for that claim?
He lists the arrest reports for a 4:00pm recorded arrest time. And an interview on “A Current Affair” with Harold Doyle on 2/25/92 for saying that the recently arrested LHO was there in the police station when he and the other two tramps were processed. But it is unclear to me how the apparent 2:19 to 2:30 timeframe was determined. Trask responded promptly to a question I asked him a while back. Maybe we could ask about this.
Related, I was reading David Harkness’ interview in “No More Silence.” He said he was one of the officers who pulled them off the train. And that he had already driven down to the other side of the triple underpass to look around, gone back to the scene and joined the search in the railroad yard behind the TSBD, interviewed Amos Euins and turned him over, helped seal off the TSBD, then was assigned to search the railroad yards and boxcars. And he said that they detained quite a few people in the area around that train and the station and the triple underpass and that he took 6 or 8 to the Sheriffs office himself. So it seems like this process could have taken a significant amount of time before they had searched every place and taken all of them to the Sheriffs Office. Nothing definite but it appears feasible that Trask is correct.
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I notice that this point (which should have immediately put an abrupt end to this thread) has been totally ignored thus far.
Why not just change the topic?...you have never had a problem doing that before :-\
They hate it when something like that busts their bubble!
What does that even mean?