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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Dan DAlimonte on September 14, 2019, 12:49:50 AM
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The reason I'm asking is this. When I was a kid in the 60's the two banks in our small town were always busy
on Friday afternoons because many workers would get their checks on that day. They'd punch in or out, for that matter,
and the payroll guy would give them their check for last week's work or a supervisor would go around, usually in the
morning, and give it to them then. And as far as Oswald is concerned? Did he and Frazier get their checks on Thursday
and Oswald cashed it then before he went home? Was it left at the TBSD on Friday? Could it have been cashed that day?
It certainly wasn't on his person when captured or the cash amount for that matter, given his check should have been
more than 13 some odd dollars. Just wondering which side of the fence it would support if LHO was indeed given his check
on Friday morning? Cashed? When? If received, did he rip it up?
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His final paycheck was made out to his wife on Dec 3.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncTzQpCM/lf-2.jpg)
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From recollection only, paid weekly and was paid for the morning of the 22nd.
An interesting thought experiment for us all. If Oswald planned to shoot JFK on the 22nd, had he planned at all for events after the shooting? His possibilities providing he went along with such a plan were;
A) did not survive......killed in the attempt.....no need for money at all.
B) captured and not killed.....no need for money at all.
C) escape and on the run......as much money as possible.
Alternatively he did not shoot that day......needs some money to live until next seeing Marina (who had most of the cash).
D) enough money to cover rent and living for a while, maybe a week.
Anyone keen to debate?
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His final paycheck was made out to his wife on Dec 3.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncTzQpCM/lf-2.jpg)
Thanks for the quick response, Sean. Dec 03, 63 was a Tuesday. If that was a standard issue check
then the expression - Good Friday - which had nothing to do with religion - didn't apply to the TSBD.
Unless, if Thanksgiving was on Nov 28 in 1963 and Friday was also a non working day - then everything
would have been pushed back.
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From recollection only, paid weekly and was paid for the morning of the 22nd.
An interesting thought experiment for us all. If Oswald planned to shoot JFK on the 22nd, had he planned at all for events after the shooting? His possibilities providing he went along with such a plan were;
A) did not survive......killed in the attempt.....no need for money at all.
B) captured and not killed.....no need for money at all.
C) escape and on the run......as much money as possible.
Alternatively he did not shoot that day......needs some money to live until next seeing Marina (who had most of the cash).
D) enough money to cover rent and living for a while, maybe a week.
Anyone keen to debate?
Hey, Colin. That's exactly what I was thinking. If - and this is a big - IF - he was given his check on that Friday morning
then, there could be differing scenarios which could have played out. Everything from an alibi to being a cold blooded killer.
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Another point to consider along these lines is Oswald's movements on the night of Wednesday the 20th. He was in the laundromat across the road from the rooming house until being asked to leave after midnight. If he decided to go to see Marina the next day why the need to do this? Marina normally did his washing. Also no mention by Frazier of any washing packages normally carried by Oswald in their rides together.
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Another point to consider along these lines is Oswald's movements on the night of Wednesday the 20th. He was in the laundromat across the road from the rooming house until being asked to leave after midnight. If he decided to go to see Marina the next day why the need to do this? Marina normally did his washing. Also no mention by Frazier of any washing packages normally carried by Oswald in their rides together.
Hey, Colin. Actually, there is a logic as to why he did his own laundry on Wed night from the LN's POV.
If his whole purpose to go home on Thursday was to reconcile with his wife then he may have considered
washing his own dirty underwear for a change could have been a good gesture on his part. Of course,
if no reconciliation was possible he'd do the next best thing and blow JFK's head off. That'll teach her, she
won't divorce me now ... if I live.
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Hey, Colin. Actually, there is a logic as to why he did his own laundry on Wed night from the LN's POV.
If his whole purpose to go home on Thursday was to reconcile with his wife then he may have considered
washing his own dirty underwear for a change may have been a good gesture on his part. Of course,
if no reconciliation was possible he'd do the next best thing and blow JFK's head off. That'll teach her, she
won't divorce me now ... if I live.
Maybe he thought it gave him the best chance to "get lucky" with her for the last time. He must have thought of it late though, likely some time after 11pm.
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Maybe he thought it gave him the best chance to "get lucky" with her for the last time. He must have thought of it late though, likely some time after 11pm.
Good point.
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Good point.
What are your thoughts regarding the money? I have derailed you somewhat.
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What are your thoughts regarding the money? I have derailed you somewhat.
Don't worry about that. Well, there's a few scenarios which could take place
possibly supporting one side or the other.
IF - he did get his check that morning - and I do hope your recollection is correct -
what happened to it? Nothing would please me more than he endorsed it at the bank during his lunch
or after the chaos. Can you imagine? If not .... did he ditch it because the name of his workplace was present
and he was indeed on the run? You see what I mean.
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I believe that payday was earlier in the week Dan. I would need to refresh my memory. The thing is, he had not seen Marina for nearly two weeks. Presumably he deposited the bulk of his cash with her after arriving at the Paine’s on Thursday the 21st. He then left on the Friday morning with the balance and the MC according to the WR.
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From Truly.....
"So I told him if he would come to work on the morning of the 16th, it was the beginning of a new pay period. So he filled out his withholding slip, with the exception of the number of dependents…
The 16th of October 1963 was a Wednesday so it seems that payday was a Tuesday. By not seeing Marina on the previous weekend he would have accumulated 2 weeks pay over that period. He must have taken it to work with him on the Thursday morning.
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From Truly.....
"So I told him if he would come to work on the morning of the 16th, it was the beginning of a new pay period. So he filled out his withholding slip, with the exception of the number of dependents…
The 16th of October 1963 was a Wednesday so it seems that payday was a Tuesday. By not seeing Marina on the previous weekend he would have accumulated 2 weeks pay over that period. He must have taken it to work with him on the Thursday morning.
Thanks Colin. You can tell I always bet on the long shots at the racetrack. Here the odds were 5 to 1 and I still lost. Sean's input
did show a last payment to Marina on December 03, 1963 which was also a Tuesday. Now the question that comes up is - Did Lee
ever keep money in the bank? He seems like he cashed his check every week esp to leave Marina $170.00 on that Thursday morning.
Thanks to the both of you.
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Thanks Colin. You can tell I always bet on the long shots at the racetrack. Here the odds were 5 to 1 and I still lost. Sean's input
did show a last payment to Marina on December 03, 1963 which was also a Tuesday. Now the question that comes up is - Did Lee
ever keep money in the bank? He seems like he cashed his check every week esp to leave Marina $170.00 on that Thursday morning.
Thanks to the both of you.
I suggest he did not use a bank. I do not know of any records that indicate he did. Being a "commie" and all. ;)
It would seem there were two locations to keep his cash before the Thursday visit, the North Beckley rooming house or in his pocket. I suggest the latter is more likely. Once at the Paine's I believe he would normally leave all but weekly living expenses with Marina. Someone might know more or be able to correct these assumptions.
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I suggest he did not use a bank. I do not know of any records that indicate he did. Being a "commie" and all. ;)
It would seem there were two locations to keep his cash before the Thursday visit, the North Beckley rooming house or in his pocket. I suggest the latter is more likely. Once at the Paine's I believe he would normally leave all but weekly living expenses with Marina. Someone might know more or be able to correct these assumptions.
Yeah, your suggestion does seem to be right, Colin. No banks for Lee for his $. Either on his person or his rooming house.
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From Truly.....
"So I told him if he would come to work on the morning of the 16th, it was the beginning of a new pay period. So he filled out his withholding slip, with the exception of the number of dependents…
Colin, if so, why pay would be paid the day after the end of a pay period. Wouldn't they need time on the following day to assess the pay due?
Just wondering as I wander. :)