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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Jake Maxwell on March 27, 2022, 05:44:54 AM

Title: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 27, 2022, 05:44:54 AM
Unreal... how have we missed this in Moorman...! In our own UNGER gallery!!
The thumbprint couldn’t rub this out...
It doesn’t take much imagination to add back what the FBI likely took out... by some means...
This gunman is looking down into his scope... his hat is cocked down a little to his right... and he is likely getting ready to take the last shot...


(https://i.ibb.co/d4f53cb/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-10-54-50-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/3mTC8sf)(https://i.ibb.co/RvHxTBL/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-11-13-34-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/5McNhnq)(https://i.ibb.co/PMk2R19/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-11-34-43-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/w7tnTpw)


Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 27, 2022, 06:12:19 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/hHr1SP4/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-11-44-54-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/VDbps7z)

(https://i.ibb.co/7XW3Bqy/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-11-41-42-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/FKwQcF7)

This should link to an online copy... I think the best I’ve seen...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L83z3F_FExo/T9O4z82JSfI/AAAAAAAABpM/utf4KJ0h5zU/s2500/Mary-Moorman-Photo.jpg

And UNGER’S Gallery Copy...

https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=24


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Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jim Hawthorn on March 27, 2022, 02:06:00 PM
The problem is, that same circular, low-def glitch can be found all over the photo, all over the trees and bushes.

The photos you posted as being "the best" that we have at out disposal are still of appalling quality when blown up and don't match the blow-ups that we see in all the "Badgeman" videos and articles, books,...
We always see that nice blown up "Badgemen" image but never anything a few steps back, to put it more clearly in the context of the whole image.

That said, as I said on another recent thread, Gordon Arnold's account (of a guy with a rifle at the picket fence in a police uniform attacking him and taking his cine film) backs up the existance of "Badgeman".
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 27, 2022, 07:45:35 PM

Notice the same tilt of the hat... and the studied look...

(https://i.ibb.co/myDy7sS/Screen-Shot-2022-03-27-at-1-16-24-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/X525TBV)(https://i.ibb.co/YB6CdNy/Screen-Shot-2022-03-27-at-1-15-59-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/Mkbv1gG)
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jim Hawthorn on March 27, 2022, 11:36:00 PM
I'm still not seeing it.
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 28, 2022, 02:18:33 AM
WARNING!
You will see it... then you can’t NOT see it...


(https://i.ibb.co/KmXtssy/ezgif-com-gif-maker-87.gif) (https://ibb.co/N7s0NNY)
(https://i.ibb.co/LrMV3Nw/ezgif-com-gif-maker-88.gif) (https://ibb.co/9hJQ7ZX)
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Rick Plant on March 28, 2022, 12:55:50 PM
WARNING!
You will see it... then you can’t NOT see it...

(https://i.ibb.co/KmXtssy/ezgif-com-gif-maker-87.gif) (https://ibb.co/N7s0NNY)
(https://i.ibb.co/LrMV3Nw/ezgif-com-gif-maker-88.gif) (https://ibb.co/9hJQ7ZX)

If you look at these two photos you can see the face. Then if you go back to the top you'll the the face in those photos.
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Steve Barber on March 28, 2022, 07:14:47 PM

That said, as I said on another recent thread, Gordon Arnold's account (of a guy with a rifle at the picket fence in a police uniform attacking him and taking his cine film) backs up the existance of "Badgeman".

 You need to look at how Dale Myers mathematically/scientifically disproved Gary Mack's "Badge Man" theory.  It isn't a person, unless they are several yards behind the fence standing on a ladder. 
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Steve Barber on March 28, 2022, 07:18:19 PM
If you look at these two photos you can see the face. Then if you go back to the top you'll the the face in those photos.

  You cannot sanely say that you see the a human face among all that grain and gobbledegook.  Stuff like this would be laughed out of the courtroom, along with the person who took it there to attempt showing it reveals a persons face.   Jake Maxwell takes everyone for a fool by posting this stuff.  When people fall for it...Well...enough said.
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jim Hawthorn on March 28, 2022, 07:34:51 PM
You need to look at how Dale Myers mathematically/scientifically disproved Gary Mack's "Badge Man" theory.  It isn't a person, unless they are several yards behind the fence standing on a ladder.

Do you have a link for that please?
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Steve Barber on March 28, 2022, 07:37:31 PM
Do you have a link for that please?


  Yessir.    https://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman.htm
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jim Hawthorn on March 28, 2022, 09:03:47 PM

  Yessir.    https://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman.htm

Thank you sir! Thumb1:
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jim Hawthorn on March 29, 2022, 09:26:05 AM
Yes, looking at the Myers debunking, Badgeman (and the one presented on this thread) can be dismissed.
In fact, look again at the Moorman photo, it's plainly obvious that any gunman's line of fire from behind the picket fence would be obscured by the white wall. They would have needed some pretty magic bullets to shoot over it, then down to JFK's head.

(https://i.ibb.co/0s39KZg/Moorman-photo-of-JFK-assassination-HD-best.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3RHFvWD)

So what to make of Arnold's account? Weird.
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Richard Smith on March 29, 2022, 04:57:13 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/hHr1SP4/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-11-44-54-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/VDbps7z)

(https://i.ibb.co/7XW3Bqy/Screen-Shot-2022-03-26-at-11-41-42-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/FKwQcF7)

This should link to an online copy... I think the best I’ve seen...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L83z3F_FExo/T9O4z82JSfI/AAAAAAAABpM/utf4KJ0h5zU/s2500/Mary-Moorman-Photo.jpg

And UNGER’S Gallery Copy...

https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=24


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Jake-  Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?  If so, you would realize that the backside of the picket fence provides no cover whatsoever for an assassin.  It is wide open to half of Dallas.  A person standing there could be seen from a mile away.  That alone makes it extremely unlikely that anyone would choose that location to assassinate JFK.  The perspective from Elm St. shown in most pictures gives the false impression that this area offers seclusion for an assassin to fire the shots when just the opposite is true.  Regardless, those blurry pictures provide no evidence of the presence of anyone. 
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Steve Barber on March 29, 2022, 05:12:15 PM
Thank you sir! Thumb1:

 You're welcome, Sir  Thumb1:
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Mark A. Oblazney on March 29, 2022, 06:03:04 PM
WARNING!
You will see it... then you can’t NOT see it...

(https://i.ibb.co/KmXtssy/ezgif-com-gif-maker-87.gif) (https://ibb.co/N7s0NNY)
(https://i.ibb.co/LrMV3Nw/ezgif-com-gif-maker-88.gif) (https://ibb.co/9hJQ7ZX)

getting....... triggered...........must call duncan..........   help
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Bill Chapman on March 29, 2022, 06:44:31 PM
getting....... triggered...........must call duncan..........   help

I think the guy stoled Fritz's hat
Plus this guy looks downright comical with the 'pipe thing' (so to speak) between his eyes
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Duncan MacRae on March 29, 2022, 09:06:19 PM
This full perspective tells the truth.

(https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/pipeman.gif)
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 29, 2022, 11:59:47 PM
I do think perspective is a key, for sure...
But looking at the image of the “sniper"... this seems to be more in line with what we are seeing in Moorman..."


(https://i.ibb.co/qjDKZJr/Screen-Shot-2022-03-29-at-5-31-35-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/1Q01Szm)
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Bill Chapman on March 30, 2022, 12:11:52 AM
  You cannot sanely say that you see the a human face among all that grain and gobbledegook.  Stuff like this would be laughed out of the courtroom, along with the person who took it there to attempt showing it reveals a persons face.   Jake Maxwell takes everyone for a fool by posting this stuff.  When people fall for it...Well...enough said.

If you look hard enough you can see the 'Mona Lisa' aiming a rifle, ffs

Meantime

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Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on March 30, 2022, 04:19:49 AM
I really think this looks like perfect perspective...

(https://i.ibb.co/V2sPdBc/ezgif-com-gif-maker-94.gif) (https://ibb.co/D5ZSNKH)
(https://i.ibb.co/pR968Rw/ezgif-com-gif-maker-91.gif) (https://ibb.co/qWPLfWj)
(https://i.ibb.co/hYFbh5B/ezgif-com-gif-maker-95.gif) (https://ibb.co/1zG1hVr)(https://i.ibb.co/tCgfw8X/ezgif-com-gif-maker-92.gif) (https://ibb.co/bdThjzJ)
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Rick Plant on March 30, 2022, 05:41:02 AM
You cannot sanely say that you see the a human face among all that grain and gobbledegook.  Stuff like this would be laughed out of the courtroom, along with the person who took it there to attempt showing it reveals a persons face.   Jake Maxwell takes everyone for a fool by posting this stuff.  When people fall for it...Well...enough said.

I never said that it was a human face. But if you look at the last photo and scroll back up you will see that image in the other photos.   
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Richard Smith on March 30, 2022, 03:34:09 PM
If you look at these two photos you can see the face. Then if you go back to the top you'll the the face in those photos.

Let me guess - it looks like Donald Trump! 
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on April 01, 2022, 11:56:07 PM

This should help orient the viewer...
Looks like Moorman caught an assassin on her Polaroid...


(https://i.ibb.co/wh3m81f/Screen-Shot-2022-04-01-at-5-13-28-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/yFGjKJr)
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Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on April 05, 2022, 01:36:03 AM

Which image doesn’t belong?

(https://i.ibb.co/4dxzW4S/Screen-Shot-2022-04-04-at-7-06-18-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m87kJhy)

Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on April 06, 2022, 04:14:02 AM
We have had access to the Moorman drum scan image that’s in our UNGER Gallery since 1967. How did we miss this image of a sniper?

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(https://i.ibb.co/RSGcNzf/Screen-Shot-2022-04-05-at-9-44-26-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/260dSgx)


From the UNGER Gallery:

LARGE Moorman Drumscan ( Credit: Josiah Thompson ) Craig Lamson Version
Josiah Thompson (The history behind the Drumscan):
I'll try to explain. In the spring of 1967, I was done with my LIFE assignment and was putting together all the details that went into Six Seconds. Mary Moorman's photograph was extremely important since it showed the knoll at Z 315. I had done some research with AP and Wide World in New York concerning the negatives and prints of the photo that they had. But the original Polaroid was sitting in Dallas. I paid Mary Moorman for the use of her photo in Six Second. Part of the deal was that she would let a professional photographer come to her house and copy the Polaroid. I hired a professional photographer to do this. He went to her home and copied the Polaroid using a medium format camera where the negative itself is about the size of Moorman's Polaroid. It was that negative from forty-five years ago that I had scanned in San Francisco. The drum scan resulting may turn out to be the highest resolution copy of the Moorman photo extant since the Polaroid itself has deteriorated further with each passing decade.
Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on April 09, 2022, 12:16:35 AM
Jake-  Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?  If so, you would realize that the backside of the picket fence provides no cover whatsoever for an assassin.  It is wide open to half of Dallas.  A person standing there could be seen from a mile away.  That alone makes it extremely unlikely that anyone would choose that location to assassinate JFK.  The perspective from Elm St. shown in most pictures gives the false impression that this area offers seclusion for an assassin to fire the shots when just the opposite is true.  Regardless, those blurry pictures provide no evidence of the presence of anyone.

Yes, I’ve been to Dealey Plaza... in the late 1970’s. I recall that there was renovation going on at the Book Depository...
But at that location behind the fence, there is some cover... Zapruder shows foliage all around... and as the assassination photos and films indicate... there were a lot of shadows to cover a dirty deed as well...
In the case of a conspiracy, if the gunman is posing as a security detail for the president... and wearing an official police or deputy uniform... there is no need to hide or run... Case in point... our friend on the bridge... with a gun... on his walkie talkie (?)...
I disagree about the blurry pictures...
This image in Moorman has much more quality and definition than any of the three fellows standing on the steps...

Yes... I know... This Moorman image is “late to the party”... Why we haven’t seen this in the Moorman scan before now I cannot explain... except most of us, I surmise, have been examining closely the area behind the wall in Moorman... and not the area behind the fence...


(https://i.ibb.co/W3s8nZL/Screen-Shot-2022-04-08-at-5-38-15-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/xs39hWN)

(https://i.ibb.co/TtmQmqX/Screen-Shot-2022-03-11-at-7-20-34-PM.png)

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Title: Re: This should convince every LN'er
Post by: Jake Maxwell on April 19, 2022, 05:27:42 AM
This looks very much like the same “gunman” noted above in Moorman...
This was found in “Image of an Assassination - A New Look at The Zapruder Film"
Zapruder frame #479...
Had to pull it out of the shadows...
And no, it isn’t a portrait or even a mug shot… but is very suggestive and seems to correlate very closely with the Moorman photo…


(https://i.ibb.co/C5VFbrk/Screen-Shot-2022-04-18-at-10-30-21-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/DDwn9qx)

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