JFK Assassination Forum
JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Paul May on August 29, 2019, 12:33:11 AM
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https://www.sahuaritasun.com/news/secret-service-agent-who-was-with-kennedy-dies-at-his/article_2c41f138-25b8-5a90-a380-7fc5a62c5162.html?fbclid=IwAR2ryOBcHxCruifHroZzLm-kltX_7MfnJWAMO0mQiX_rXHg-0W3S2SDr0k4
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https://www.sahuaritasun.com/news/secret-service-agent-who-was-with-kennedy-dies-at-his/article_2c41f138-25b8-5a90-a380-7fc5a62c5162.html?fbclid=IwAR2ryOBcHxCruifHroZzLm-kltX_7MfnJWAMO0mQiX_rXHg-0W3S2SDr0k4
Thanks for the information Paul. Sadly, we are losing the witnesses to the assassination. Here is a quote from the article that you linked to:
“According to his statement to the Warren Commission, which investigated the assassination, McIntyre was standing on the left running board behind agent Clint Hill when he heard three shots fired within five seconds. He saw the second shot hit Kennedy in the neck and the third strike his head. Hill ran to the limo and shoved Jacqueline Kennedy back inside after she climbed onto the trunk.”
Is that what he said? Not long ago I was only able to find a SS report that he made immediately after the assassination. And it didn’t include many details. Also, this might be a good time and place to document other things that he has said about the assassination over the years.
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Welcome Charles.
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Clint Hill to this day claims that JFK,ordered the agents off the car. So why is there video of them,on the back is some shots on the ride from the airport? Also through Dallas, the Queen Elizabeth was bumper to bumper till Elm?
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Clint Hill to this day claims that JFK,ordered the agents off the car. So why is there video of them,on the back is some shots on the ride from the airport? Also through Dallas, the Queen Elizabeth was bumper to bumper till Elm?
Hill explained it. In some instances, the crowd was out into the street. He made the decision in those limited circumstances to move closer to Jackie by climbing onto the back of the car. I'm not aware of any other SS agent being pictured doing so in that motorcade. There is no "them" in that regard - only Hill. Hill might have felt more confident taking greater initiative in these situations than other agents. He had been with Jackie for many years. And again, at the moment of the shooting it is Hill that moves toward the car. What is the alternative or point that you are trying to make by raising this? That Hill is lying for some reason despite knowing there are films of him on the back of the car in Dallas? And he is part of the conspiracy to explain why the SS were not riding on the back of car? Not clear.
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I did not say Hill,I said agents,Google rare footage,of the ride through Dallas,not just Dealy.
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Clint Hill to this day claims that JFK,ordered the agents off the car. So why is there video of them,on the back is some shots on the ride from the airport? Also through Dallas, the Queen Elizabeth was bumper to bumper till Elm?
I don't know of any vehicle in the motorcade named the Queen Elizabeth. Catch me up.
Agents were removed at the airport; they were originally assigned to airport security for the duration of the motorcade and the expected return from the Trade Mart luncheon. There's a list of agent security assignments for the entire 2-day Texas trip.
The limo and the Queen Mary were set bumper-to-bumper at times to prevent people from getting between the two cars when moving at the slower speeds, for security.
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The follow up car with S.S the huge Cadillac.
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I made a mistake on the name.I have a Chrome laptop,and it does not allow me to upload,what i would like to but seriously go on Youtube,type in John F Kennedy November 22 1063- rare,at 2 minutes 28 seconds you see an agent on the back of the limo.also Me. Hill said the president did not want the motorcycles on the side of the car.
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I made a mistake on the name.I have a Chrome laptop,and it does not allow me to upload,what i would like to but seriously go on Youtube,type in John F Kennedy November 22 1063- rare,at 2 minutes 28 seconds you see an agent on the back of the limo.also Me. Hill said the president did not want the motorcycles on the side of the car.
It is hard to follow what you are trying to say. Hill was, to my knowledge, the only agent to climb onto the back of the presidential limo during the 11/22 motorcade. There is some film of him doing that. You seem to be implying that other agents than Hill did so. I don't think that is accurate. Again though, what is the point that you are trying to make here? That Hill lied about JFK telling them not to climb on the car? If so, why do you think Hill would lie?
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Can't explain,why.Though he did. He also claimed he push Mrs. Kennedy back into the car,she went onto the trunk of the car turned and went back on her own.
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Can't explain,why.Though he did. He also claimed he push Mrs. Kennedy back into the car,she went onto the trunk of the car turned and went back on her own.
Don't you think it is feasible that JFK told the agents he didn't like them on the car but that Hill, as a more experienced agent, exercised his initiative to disregard when he felt there was a potential risk like the crowd getting too close? It doesn't seem like a mystery. In terms of Jackie, Hill is recounting split second events as he is running to jump on a moving car while shots are being fired. It doesn't surprise me that he his recollection is not 100% accurate in every detail. Again though, why would it matter whether he pushed Jackie or not?
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It matters,because,it's what he has been saying for years
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Don't you think it is feasible that JFK told the agents he didn't like them on the car but that Hill, as a more experienced agent, exercised his initiative to disregard when he felt there was a potential risk like the crowd getting too close? It doesn't seem like a mystery. In terms of Jackie, Hill is recounting split second events as he is running to jump on a moving car while shots are being fired. It doesn't surprise me that he his recollection is not 100% accurate in every detail. Again though, why would it matter whether he pushed Jackie or not?
She was trying to escape after plugging the hubby with the pistol disguised as a white glove. Or how about this: She was trying to get away from Greer who landed a round using the silver pistol disguised as sunlight on Kellerman's head. Or tying to get out to congratulate BrollyMan for timing the fusilade so perfectly.
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It matters,because,it's what he has been saying for years
I gave you a plausible explanation. Why do you believe it matters? It's still unclear what you are suggesting. That Hill intentionally lied as part of a conspiracy?
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That's exactly what I am saying. If you constantly state things that are not true,by any definition that's a lie.