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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: James Hackerott on June 13, 2021, 06:51:43 AM
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COVID19 forced many of us to find something to fill our time. Years ago I gave up my amateur astronomy about the time I first typed “JFK” into an internet browser. So I cleaned about 20+ years of dust from my telescope curious to see if I could make a cellphone adapter to capture pictures and video through the eyepiece. Fortunately, I was able to buy a cheap adapter from Amazon perfect for my needs.
To process video today’s astronomers use a process of “frame stacking” to counter, to some extent, the blurring effect of atmospheric turbulence. For lunar work it is typical to capture thousands of frames and let software sort them by a quality estimation. Depending on the amount of turbulence one may take few to many of the best frames to stack with 16 bit dynamic range. Final processing will include some sharpening and tone adjustments. I spend most of a day processing a single night’s video. Pretty cool, and there are popular freeware programs to accomplish this magic.
I wondered if this process would be helpful with the Darnell doorway frames. I used 20 frames and processed, for example below, the best 15 frames. Stacking is designed for static scenes such as the moon. So for the Darnell frames portions that are static will stack, while people in motion will be blurred. The two figures I was interested in enhancing are Mr. Frazier and the shadowy so called “Prayer Man”.
For Mr. Frazier it is clear to me that he was wearing sunglasses (or eye patch), an unexpected find as I’ve never seen an enhancement showing this.
For Prayer Man I think there is some hint of facial features (compared with single frames), but still too blurry for identification, in my opinion. There is a hint of the vertical tie-like feature I’ve noted in previous postings after viewing the Sixth Floor Museum’s excellent Darnell video. I was allowed to make a trace of a single screen capture printout (which was afterward destroyed by the SFM). The attached GIF overlays that tracing with the processed 15 frame stack.
(https://i.imgur.com/m2D1vO6.gif)
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lol so yeah, now you are introducing the 'eye patch' or 'sun glasses' into the 690 months · 3003 weeks · 21021 days mix
Tw@t
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COVID19 forced many of us to find something to fill our time. Years ago I gave up my amateur astronomy about the time I first typed “JFK” into an internet browser. So I cleaned about 20+ years of dust from my telescope curious to see if I could make a cellphone adapter to capture pictures and video through the eyepiece. Fortunately, I was able to buy a cheap adapter from Amazon perfect for my needs.
To process video today’s astronomers use a process of “frame stacking” to counter, to some extent, the blurring effect of atmospheric turbulence. For lunar work it is typical to capture thousands of frames and let software sort them by a quality estimation. Depending on the amount of turbulence one may take few to many of the best frames to stack with 16 bit dynamic range. Final processing will include some sharpening and tone adjustments. I spend most of a day processing a single night’s video. Pretty cool, and there are popular freeware programs to accomplish this magic.
I wondered if this process would be helpful with the Darnell doorway frames. I used 20 frames and processed, for example below, the best 15 frames. Stacking is designed for static scenes such as the moon. So for the Darnell frames portions that are static will stack, while people in motion will be blurred. The two figures I was interested in enhancing are Mr. Frazier and the shadowy so called “Prayer Man”.
For Mr. Frazier it is clear to me that he was wearing sunglasses (or eye patch), an unexpected find as I’ve never seen an enhancement showing this.
For Prayer Man I think there is some hint of facial features (compared with single frames), but still too blurry for identification, in my opinion. There is a hint of the vertical tie-like feature I’ve noted in previous postings after viewing the Sixth Floor Museum’s excellent Darnell video. I was allowed to make a trace of a single screen capture printout (which was afterward destroyed by the SFM). The attached GIF overlays that tracing with the processed 15 frame stack.
(https://i.imgur.com/m2D1vO6.gif)
Shadow, not sunglasses
(https://i.postimg.cc/2yTwYST0/eye-shadow-1-A.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/httYfHdJ/eye-shadow-1-B.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Lsf3XTNY/eye-shadow-2-A.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/15t06PvZ/eye-shadow-2-B.png)
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lol so yeah, now you are introducing the 'eye patch' or 'sun glasses' into the 690 months · 3003 weeks · 21021 days mix
Tw@t
Tw@t
LOL. Good one.
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Shadow, not sunglasses
There is a horizontal line from eye level to the back of the head. An arm of glasses is reasonable, rather than a shadow as you presented.
(https://i.imgur.com/i5tsMrz.png)
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(https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Enhancedchris.gif)
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(https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Enhancedchris.gif)
Once again, Mary Tyler Moore appears !!! Who else can turn the world on with a smile?
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In your opinion James, who is Prayer Man?
Fred
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In your opinion James, who is Prayer Man?
Fred
Frederick, I don’t have an opinion on the ID of Prayer Man. I believe it is not Oswald. I began thinking he/she was an obese woman, not necessarily Stanton. After viewing the SFM’s Darnell video, and noting a thin linear feature like a string tie (see the tracing overlay in the op) I realized the style of ties in 1963 were fairly thin - so a thin tie is possible. A tie, open collar and short sleeves are the most notable features I observed. It is my opinion that a real and useful enhancement would at a minimum start with high quality digital copies of the museum's DVD frames and then analyzed with stacking techniques. This will probably never happen though. Ultimately, digital copies directly from the film would give the best results. However, I doubt that even then there will be enough resolution to make a universally accepted identification.
James
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After viewing the SFM’s Darnell video, and noting a thin linear feature like a string tie (see the tracing overlay in the op) I realized the style of ties in 1963 were fairly thin - so a thin tie is possible. A tie, open collar and short sleeves are the most notable features I observed.
A soda bottle, open collar and rolled up sleeves.........
(https://i.imgur.com/kn6aEmL.gif)
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Thanks James.
Fred
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There is a horizontal line from eye level to the back of the head. An arm of glasses is reasonable, rather than a shadow as you presented.
(https://i.imgur.com/i5tsMrz.png)
Nothing from the fringe is reasonable.
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Sunglasses, eye patch, purse, wig :D
Anybody can imagine anything looking at a distorted smeared image. Doesn't mean that's what it is.
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Sunglasses, eye patch, purse, wig :D
Anybody can imagine anything looking at a distorted smeared image. Doesn't mean that's what it is.
Eye patch, I thought most people knew Frazier wore no eye patch. A feeble attempt at levity on my part – shame on me. But purse, wig are you seeing those in my post?
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"Horizontal line at eye level going to back of head"
Go with the science
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kxffmkm/Frazier-pixelgate.png)
PixelGate
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Eye patch, I thought most people knew Frazier wore no eye patch. A feeble attempt at levity on my part – shame on me. But purse, wig are you seeing those in my post?
The purse and wig came from another poster in the past.
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Frederick, I don’t have an opinion on the ID of Prayer Man. I believe it is not Oswald. I began thinking he/she was an obese woman, not necessarily Stanton. After viewing the SFM’s Darnell video, and noting a thin linear feature like a string tie (see the tracing overlay in the op) I realized the style of ties in 1963 were fairly thin - so a thin tie is possible. A tie, open collar and short sleeves are the most notable features I observed. It is my opinion that a real and useful enhancement would at a minimum start with high quality digital copies of the museum's DVD frames and then analyzed with stacking techniques. This will probably never happen though. Ultimately, digital copies directly from the film would give the best results. However, I doubt that even then there will be enough resolution to make a universally accepted identification.
James
Perhaps it was just a dude off the street, getting a better shot of the prez' going by. I call him.......... Shadow Man ! Sounds a heck of a lot better than 'Fat Woman Man', uh....
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If so why did nobody on the steps notice a stranger in their midst?
Fred
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If so why did nobody on the steps notice a stranger in their midst?
Fred
Geez, Mr Clements, don't you get it yet? If Prayer Man was a stranger, then he wasn't noticed because everyone was focused on the motorcade. If Prayer Man was Mr Lee Harvey Oswald, then he was noticed because everyone was focused on Mr Lee Harvey Oswald who was already world famous which means Prayer Man can't have been Mr Lee Harvey Oswald.
It's quite simple really.