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Good catch. Nechiporenko et al said Oswald complained about the "notorious FBI" hounding him, he shows the revolver et cetera. But this was all *before* the Hosty matter. So where was the hounding?

It's clear, at least to us, what he was doing with all of that New Orleans activity: building a pro-Castro resume, showing he was being harassed by the US government, that he was a friend of the Revolution and an enemy of the imperialists. All in order to get to Cuba. And the attacks by the FBI claim was manufactured by him by the NO arrest incident. He clearly WANTED to get arrested.

The problem is the conspiracists see all of it as an act, that he was pretending to hold these views; in reality it was his legend, his cover, he was really a gung-ho pro-American defending us from the communists (oy, what these people believe!). We see up and they see down. Here we are going in circles 60 years later.


The more that I consider that Semichastny specified, in his memo dated 11/23/63, that LHO cited his “position” as secretary of a pro-Cuban organization…. , the more it becomes obvious that this should be considered strong evidence that LHO himself was indeed there in Mexico City petitioning the Cubans and Soviets as reported. How else could Semichastny have known on 11/23/63 about LHO’s claimed “position” as secretary? I know it was in the news media very early on that LHO was associated with the fair play for Cuba Committee. I could be mistaken, but I really don’t believe that the information regarding his claimed position as secretary became publicly known until much later in the investigation. If this is correct, it appears to me that the only way Semichastny could have know this would have been from the earlier reports from their embassy in Mexico City. Evidence indicates that LHO created this “position” and the related membership card while he was in New Orleans a short while before the trip to Mexico City. I know his association with the FPCC was news while he was in New Orleans. But was his “position as secretary” a part of the news in New Orleans? I do not remember that it was, but I could be wrong.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Andrew Mason on May 31, 2024, 10:46:43 PM »
40' width is the roadway for traffic.
Your source would be helpful. 

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The right side of the car is about in the center of the lane. Cutler and Roberdeau have JFK a little to the left-of-center. But you know more than anyone else, so never-mind.

I think you meant 78.6" wide. But if you think Ford got it wrong all these years, write them.
I was using the actual measurements found in the 6 HSCA 50:


which shows the width to be 76.8 inches:



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The tire distance to the lane stripe isn't the side of the car distance. The tire is not on the same plane as the side of the car. With Z170, for example, I don't think the widest part of the left side of the left-front tire is in view and we can only see the tread, which is inward from the car side more.
Ok. So tell us how far the right edge of the car is left or right of the centre of the centre lane and how far JFK is to the left of that.
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I suggest you use a map that's somewhat accurate.
I would be happy to, if you can find one.
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But you know more than what aerial photos can tell us, so never-mind.
Your aerial view does not show Dealey Plaza as it was in 1963. For one thing, in 1963 the lamp posts were on the curb edge of the sidewalk.  They are moved back to the grass side in your photo.
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cornered? - I don't think so. All I said was that he was completely searched when he was arrested.
I showed a document to prove it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53757723472_86ccd680a9_o.png

Here is a link to 4 witnesses saw a man leave the plaza in a car. 2 of them said it looked like Oswald.

https://jfk.boards.net/post/7693

Does that mean I choose the car and you choose the bus? -  NO !
It means the case against Oswald is completely inconsistent and broken.
So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.

So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.

You can't talk to him like that. He doesn't have a clue what the words "legitimate criticisms" mean.
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LOL.  You can tell CTers are cornered with they start playing the everything is suspect, but they are not suggesting a conspiracy card.  HA HA HA.  Now where have I heard that one before?  Maybe in "Europe"?   So the bus transfer was not planted?  How about instead of trying to decipher whatever point you are trying to make that you just lay it out for once?  I tried to help you communicate in complete thoughts.  Try this "I think Oswald was/was not on the bus because [here you fill in a thought].

cornered? - I don't think so. All I said was that he was completely searched when he was arrested.
I showed a document to prove it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53757723472_86ccd680a9_o.png

Here is a link to 4 witnesses saw a man leave the plaza in a car. 2 of them said it looked like Oswald.

https://jfk.boards.net/post/7693

Does that mean I choose the car and you choose the bus? -  NO !
It means the case against Oswald is completely inconsistent and broken.
So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.



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LOL.  You can tell CTers are cornered with they start playing the everything is suspect, but they are not suggesting a conspiracy card.  HA HA HA.  Now where have I heard that one before?  Maybe in "Europe"?   So the bus transfer was not planted?  How about instead of trying to decipher whatever point you are trying to make that you just lay it out for once?  I tried to help you communicate in complete thoughts.  Try this "I think Oswald was/was not on the bus because [here you fill in a thought].

LOL.  You can tell CTers are cornered with they start playing the everything is suspect, but they are not suggesting a conspiracy card.  HA HA HA.

LOL. You can tell when the LNs have no answers to questions being asked; they collectively start to attack CT's

So the bus transfer was not planted?

Here's one of those simple questions; when was the first time the bus transfer having been found was mentioned in any report?
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News - Off Topic - Weird & Wacky / Re: U.S. Politics
« Last post by Richard Smith on May 31, 2024, 07:41:22 PM »
Old Joe is apparently now going to sign an executive order just before the upcoming debate reinstating many of the Trump border policies which he had previously claimed were racist.  You can't make that up.  Too little, and way too late.  Ten million illegals have entered the country.  Is this because he has suddenly seen the light and is acknowledging that Trump was right?  Of course not.  His open border policy is hurting him in the polls.  He also lectured Trump on taking issue with the legal system by claiming it was political.  Is this the same line Old Joe will take when his son Dirty Hunter is placed on trial next week for numerous felonies? 
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Also around 8:00, they show using a metal detector on the tree but failed to find a bullet. Since a rifle bullet goes through two feet of hard wood and four feet of soft wood there is very little chance of a branch containing a bullet even if it was struck by one.
Yes.  But it would show a hole or damage of some kind to the branch. No one appears to have found any.  Besides, it would not have deflected a bullet very much. It could have destabilised the bullet which would cause it to gradually drift off course.  That is not nearly enough to explain how a shot aimed at someone in the limo missed the entire car, let alone the entire street.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Joe Elliott on May 31, 2024, 07:14:57 PM »

It doesn't take that long to stop. Most people can go from a run to a stop in 2 or 3 steps. She may have been slowing because the President's car was pulling away and she could not longer keep up to it.  Besides, she said that when she heard the first shot she stopped and looked back at the TSBD and saw pigeons flying away from the roof. She stops at z199.  She was not turned looking at the TSBD until z204. She then turns sharply back toward the TSBD at z204-207. Pigeons didn't wait 5 seconds to take flight after hearing the shot.

Most people can go from a run to a stop in 2 or 3 steps? I don't know about most people but I can't without the assistance of a side of a building. Like Wily Coyote style.

I remember that John Madden said the very best NFL cornerbacks could start to react, not stop but start to react, in one or two steps, a more typical NFL cornerback in two steps and a good college cornerback who fails to make the cut in the NFL might need three or even 4 steps.

Certainly 1.5 seconds does not sound like an unreasonable amount of time for a child to go from a run to a stop, like from z163 to z190.
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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate / Re: When Was JBC Hit?
« Last post by Joe Elliott on May 31, 2024, 07:07:35 PM »

. . .

"Pigeons didn't wait 5 seconds to take flight after hearing the shot."

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Who said that? Must be more Masomactics.

Pigeons not waiting 5 seconds to take flight after hearing a shot is a basic insight of biology that Charles Darwin devoted an entire chapter to in his book 'Origin of the Species". Or maybe this is just something Andrew came up with. I don't remember.

Actually, I think Pigeons are unpredictable. They might hear a shot and stay still and look around before a second or even a third shot causes one of them to take off and the rest to follow suit. Or maybe they would take off from near the center of the roof after the first shot but not become visible to observers on Elm Street until they were 20 feet or more above the roof, or flew horizontally into view to people below. There could be a delay of several seconds after they took off before people could see them. Or maybe not. It is hard to say.

Besides, I am reluctant to rely on the memories of witnesses, let along the decisions of pigeons.
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This cartoon is suggestive of the obliviousness of some of the naysayers around here…


They read the conspiracy books and get drunk on all of this history about the CIA and Operation Northwoods and Guatemala and intrigue and spying and military industrial complex and Allan Dulles. So they have to interpret the assassination through that view, through that history. It's the only way for them it makes sense. The nut with the umbrella is not a nut with an umbrella; no, he's signalling the sniper teams. Secret teams and CIA and spies and coverups and Cold War intrigue and....they can't resist it.

It's the Jim Garrison view. We can't reason with it.
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