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Goofy.  I didn't speculate.  I stated a fact.


I have news for you, Jackass... IF Oswald wanted to get to Jefferson and Marsalis, he was walking pretty much the most direct line to that point from the rooming house and that most direct line included taking Tenth Street from Crawford to the area of Marsalis and Jefferson.  That was my point and it is not speculation, it is a fact.  Look at a damn map.

Goofy.  I didn't speculate.  I stated a fact.

Really? So, now it's suddenly a fact that Oswald was walking to the Marsalis line bus stop on Jefferson?

I have news for you, Jackass... IF Oswald wanted to get to Jefferson and Marsalis, he was walking pretty much the most direct line to that point from the rooming house and that most direct line included taking Tenth Street from Crawford to the area of Marsalis and Jefferson.  That was my point and it is not speculation, it is a fact.  Look at a damn map.

pretty much the most direct line? It's pretty amazing what you consider to be a fact.

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At the distance involved, it takes less than 1/10 of one second difference in time for the bullet to reach the target vs the time for the sound of the muzzle blast to reach the target. A blink of an eye takes about three times that amount of time.

I am trying to describe the perceived amount of time between when he heard the shot (so what if it was less than 1/10 of a second after it actually hit him) and the time that he actually FELT the hit in his back. His perception of that amount of time might also have been distorted due to his instinctual reaction (the amygdala in his brain taking control) as Dan and myself have been describing earlier in this thread.

Your theory would also have to explain why he reversed the order of the two events that he distinctly recalled: hearing a rifle shot then feeling the hit.  It would also help if there was evidence to support the theory.

Isn’t it you that claims he wouldn’t (if your idea were true) have felt a shot to his leg for over 4-seconds? Why would less than 1/10 of a second make a difference in your way of thinking?

I said that in many cases bullets are often not felt.    In this case, we have JBC describing the moment of impact because he felt it. Not pain. He felt impact.   I suggest that he felt it because it was a pristine 2000 fps 10 gram bullet hitting bone.  But that doesn't matter.   The evidence from JBC is that he felt it and the evidence from Nellie is that he recoiled from it and that it was the second shot.  The thigh wound was an oblique wound caused by a tumbling lower speed bullet striking the thigh butt-first and not interfering with any bodily function and which JBC said he never felt.  I am just suggesting that the trajectory from the SN through JFK's throat exit wound at around z190-195 goes to JBC's left side and the only wound on his left side was his left thigh AND the wound characteristics of the thigh wound fit being hit butt-first by a tumbling partially spent bullet.

The fact is that JBC himself later said it is possible that they were hit by the same bullet.

Yes. The second bullet, although he said he would never believe that happened.  He never said that it was possible he was hit in the back by the first bullet - the one he heard, which is what Dan is arguing.

Cohen admitted to stealing $60K from Trump today.  What else does he have to admit to having done to have this case dismissed?  Murder?  It's a travesty.  Even Old Joe in the midst of a paranoid dementia delusion should be able to comprehend that this is awful.

The nearest transfer point in Oak Cliff on the Marsalis line (which is the line that the transfer was good for) was at Jefferson Blvd., roughly three blocks away from the site of the Tippit shooting scene.  Oswald, if he were walking east on Tenth, was heading in that exact direction.

Markham saw Tippit's killer walking east and crossing Patton Ave. This means that he would have turned left onto 10th street from Crawford street, which makes no sense if he was walking to the Marsalis bus stop as it would be a long way around. A far better and shorter route would have been East Davis street and turn left on either South Patton ave or North Denver street.

But there isn't a shred of evidence that Oswald was walking to a Marsalis line bus stop on Jefferson. It's pure speculation on your part and Richard Smith never mentioned the Marsalis line bus stop at all.

So, just like Richard Smith, you've got nothing conclusive.


Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with a map of the area before telling Richard Smith that he looks stupid?

Perhaps you should be a bit less condescending and not misrepresent my actual response to Richard Smith in a vain attempt to score a pathetic point.

If, as Richard said, Oswald wanted to get out of Dallas quickly, then it doesn't make a bit of sense for him to end up on a go nowhere suburban street with no bus stops at all.

That was the point I made. But I'm not surprised you tried to twist it into something else.

But there isn't a shred of evidence that Oswald was walking to a Marsalis line bus stop on Jefferson. It's pure speculation on your part...

Goofy.  I didn't speculate.  I stated a fact.

If, as Richard said, Oswald wanted to get out of Dallas quickly, then it doesn't make a bit of sense for him to end up on a go nowhere suburban street with no bus stops at all.

That was the point I made. But I'm not surprised you tried to twist it into something else.

I have news for you, Jackass... IF Oswald wanted to get to Jefferson and Marsalis, he was walking pretty much the most direct line to that point from the rooming house and that most direct line included taking Tenth Street from Crawford to the area of Marsalis and Jefferson.  That was my point and it is not speculation, it is a fact.  Look at a damn map.