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You think Fischer includes a T-shirt with no collar as an open collar shirt?? ???



I don’t just have the opinion, I know it as a fact. Read the transcript of Fischer’s testimony.


“And he had--he had on an open-neck shirt, but it-uh--could have been a sport shirt or a T-shirt. It was light in color; probably white”,

He said it very clearly and precisely. No interpretation needed. However, the term is an “open-neck shirt”. I apparently got sloppy with my words by saying open collar. Please forgive me.
 

I like the way you say Fischer said it "very clearly and precisely" and then admit he said something completely different  ::)
Let's just agree to disagree.
Meanwhile back at the ranch...what do you think of Oswald using Shelley as an excuse.
This is an incredibly important aspect of the case as it represents the only testable part of Oswald's alibi for his movements that day.
Why do you think he introduced Shelley into it?
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Clearly Fischer includes a t-shirt as an open collar shirt.

You think Fischer includes a T-shirt with no collar as an open collar shirt?? ???
It's official Charles. you are now making a fool of yourself.
The shooter was wearing a light coloured shirt, open at the collar, as recalled by three eye-witnesses. That's how I see it and there's plenty of evidence to back me up.
I'm not interested in your desperate attempts to make it how you want it.
Let's just agree to disagree because this is getting embarrassing.
You've said nothing that even remotely comes close to changing my opinion on this. In fact, you've only strengthened it.


You think Fischer includes a T-shirt with no collar as an open collar shirt?? ???



I don’t just have the opinion, I know it as a fact. Read the transcript of Fischer’s testimony.


“And he had--he had on an open-neck shirt, but it-uh--could have been a sport shirt or a T-shirt. It was light in color; probably white”,

He said it very clearly and precisely. No interpretation needed. However, the term is an “open-neck shirt”. I apparently got sloppy with my words by saying open collar. Please forgive me.

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Here's one for the Nutters:

Why do you think Oswald said that it was as the result of a conversation with Bill Shelley that he decided to go home?
Why do you think he specifically named Shelley?
The thing that first draws Oswald's name to the attention of the police is that he 'flees the scene' of the crime. When asked about it, he must come up with an innocent explanation for why he did it. His explanation is that, basically, Shelley said it was alright to go home.
Oswald knows that it is the easiest thing in the world for the police to check with Shelley whether this happened or not.
So why do you think he named Shelley?

Let's see if we have any takers.
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Clearly Fischer includes a t-shirt as an open collar shirt. He specifically and unequivocally says that it could have been a t-shirt. You choose to ignore this fact and continue to delude yourself. And why would you think that taking off the outer shirt is silly?

Clearly Fischer includes a t-shirt as an open collar shirt.

You think Fischer includes a T-shirt with no collar as an open collar shirt?? ???
It's official Charles. you are now making a fool of yourself.
The shooter was wearing a light coloured shirt, open at the collar, as recalled by three eye-witnesses. That's how I see it and there's plenty of evidence to back me up.
I'm not interested in your desperate attempts to make it how you want it.
Let's just agree to disagree because this is getting embarrassing.
You've said nothing that even remotely comes close to changing my opinion on this. In fact, you've only strengthened it.
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I didn’t say anything about what he was wearing over the t-shirt.

I know. That's why I made the remark about allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Like Fischer and Edwards, Rowland describes the man on the sixth floor as wearing a light coloured open necked shirt with a collar. It doesn't matter how you try to twist and turn the evidence, Oswald wasn't wearing such a garment. Oswald was wearing a brown coloured shirt with a collar and a white T-shirt with no collar. That's just the way it is.
Your waffle about Oswald taking off his shirt is really silly.
It's clear you've gone full blown Nutter. I'm just going to let the posts I've made about this issue stand as they are. I'm happy to let the reader judge for themselves.

Clearly Fischer includes a t-shirt as an open collar shirt. He specifically and unequivocally says that it could have been a t-shirt. You choose to ignore this fact and continue to delude yourself. And why would you think that taking off the outer shirt is silly?
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No one is making a fool out of himself. Your assumptions do however show some promise in that regard. I didn’t say anything about what he was wearing over the t-shirt. The fact remains that Rowland said he was wearing a t-shirt. It is entirely feasible that the outer shirt could have been removed by the time he was seen in the SE corner window. He was described as wearing a t-shirt as he went through the second floor offices. It appears to me that he was donning and removing the outer shirt purposefully in order to change his appearance and try to make it harder to track him.

I didn’t say anything about what he was wearing over the t-shirt.

I know. That's why I made the remark about allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Like Fischer and Edwards, Rowland describes the man on the sixth floor as wearing a light coloured open necked shirt with a collar. It doesn't matter how you try to twist and turn the evidence, Oswald wasn't wearing such a garment. Oswald was wearing a brown coloured shirt with a collar and a white T-shirt with no collar. That's just the way it is.
Your waffle about Oswald taking off his shirt is really silly.
It's clear you've gone full blown Nutter. I'm just going to let the posts I've made about this issue stand as they are. I'm happy to let the reader judge for themselves.
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So Oswald did it?  Great.  Close the forum.  There is nothing left to discuss.

 :D
You'd love that, wouldn't you. ;)
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Rowland said he was wearing a t-shirt

Arnold Rowland's WC testimony:

"He had on a light shirt, a very light-colored shirt, white or a light blue or a color such as that. This was open at the collar. I think it was unbuttoned about halfway, and then he had a regular T-shirt, a polo shirt under this, at least this is what it appeared to be."

The man on the 6th floor was wearing a light coloured shirt that was open at the collar. Underneath this shirt he was wearing a T-shirt.
You are in danger of making a fool of yourself here Charles, you're better than this. Don't go full blown Nutter.
Believe what you need to believe Charles, but let the evidence speak for itself.

No one is making a fool out of himself. Your assumptions do however show some promise in that regard. I didn’t say anything about what he was wearing over the t-shirt. The fact remains that Rowland said he was wearing a t-shirt. It is entirely feasible that the outer shirt could have been removed by the time he was seen in the SE corner window. He was described as wearing a t-shirt as he went through the second floor offices. It appears to me that he was donning and removing the outer shirt purposefully in order to change his appearance and try to make it harder to track him.
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You are relying upon descriptions of how he was dressed as viewed from a 6th floor window to suggest doubt

I'm not suggesting any kind of doubt, I'm simply quoting what all three eye-witnesses said. It's you who wants to introduce doubt.



So Oswald did it?  Great.  Close the forum.  There is nothing left to discuss.
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Fischer said it could have been a t-shirt. Rowland said he was wearing a t-shirt. And it appears that LHO was wearing a t-shirt. Therefore, your claim that (they said he was wearing clothes LHO didn’t have) doesn’t hold water.

 Rowland said he was wearing a t-shirt

Arnold Rowland's WC testimony:

"He had on a light shirt, a very light-colored shirt, white or a light blue or a color such as that. This was open at the collar. I think it was unbuttoned about halfway, and then he had a regular T-shirt, a polo shirt under this, at least this is what it appeared to be."

The man on the 6th floor was wearing a light coloured shirt that was open at the collar. Underneath this shirt he was wearing a T-shirt.
You are in danger of making a fool of yourself here Charles, you're better than this. Don't go full blown Nutter.
Believe what you need to believe Charles, but let the evidence speak for itself.

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