JFK Assassination Forum

Her estimate was based on a review of still frames after watching the film.  Her view is inconsistent with her testimony.  We can see her looking back at JFK as he is grasping for his upper chest/throat well after z250.  She was adamant that she did not look back after the second shot. She was never asked when she thought JBC turned right after the first shot or when she thought JBC uttered “no, no , no” which she said was before the second shot. We can see JBC saying this in the z240s.

So, now Nellie's testimony is "inconsistent".
   It didn't take you much to throw your star witness under the bus! You really are a piece of work.
Now you have deemed Nellie to be unreliable you have undermined almost half of your baloney evidence for why you completely ignore Connally selecting z234 as the moment he felt he was shot.

According to Altgens his no. 6 photo at z255 was taken after the first and before any other shots. So with JBC estimating that he was hit on the second shot at z234, there is a conflict with Altgens (as well as several dozen others as to the 1…...2...3 shot pattern).

There is absolutely no conflict with Altgens 6 when it is realised that Connally's estimate of when he was shot is an estimation of WHEN HE BECAME AWARE HE'D BEEN SHOT.
This point has been made over and over and over again so it's time to pin you down on it so you can't squirm out of it.
Here are a few questions I would like you to answer:

1] Do you agree with the following science?:

"Human thought takes time to form, and so the “right now” that we’re experiencing inside our skulls is always a little later than what’s going on in the outside world. It takes 500 milliseconds, or half a second, for sensory information from the outside world to be incorporated into conscious experience."

[ https://nymag.com/speed/2016/12/what-is-the-speed-of-thought.html#:~:text=Human%20thought%20takes%20time%20to,be%20incorporated%20into%20conscious%20experience. ]

2] Do you agree that in Z-frames z231 to z234 Connally is looking a little bit to the left of centre?

3] From Connally's statement below, would you agree he picked z234 as the frame he was shot because this was when he was looking "a little bit to the left of center"?

"I was turning to look back over my left shoulder into the back seat, but I never got that far in my turn. I got about in the position I am in now facing you, looking a little bit to the left of center, and then I felt like someone had hit me in the back."

       

         Not sure on this as it seems to be part of the film that's missing but several things aren't right - the crowd on the left is wrong there is shade on the sidewalk on the left which isn't in Zapruder and the film is taken from further back - you can see the whole of the Stemmons sign. People are waving and jumping up and down and the limo hasn't arrived yet and exact opposite in Zapruder not a single wave from that group Maybe film from one of the re-enactments made to look old?

Possibly a reenactment for the JFK movie or something similar. Time of day and/or time of year is wrong (the shadows give that much away).

Please post some diagram that shows how it’s possible for a shot fired from TSBD 6th floor SE window thru JFKs back that exited  his throat to line up with JCs thigh wound without that bullet having gone thru some part of JCs  body before impacting his inner  left thigh.

Here:


The key is realizing that the first shot occurred just as or just after JFK became clear of the oak tree branches as seen from the SN.. He was opposite a point between the first lamp post and the Thornton Freeway sign when he cleared those branches. 



According to the Itek map of Dealey Plaza that was used in its 1967 report, JFK was opposite the lamp post just before Betzner took his photo at z186.



Between z183 and z203 JBC was turned to the right to about a 2 o'clock position:



At z193 the angle of a shot from the SN through JFK to the car direction was 15 degrees,