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The William Pitzer Murder

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Mitch Todd:

--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 08, 2018, 05:19:58 AM --- I assume that is some kind of metaphorical thing?

Could you answer why the Navy ruled it a suicide when all the evidence provided at that time at least pointed to homicide?

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Are you sure that the evidence provided actually pointed to homicide, or was it Eaglesham's inexperience and lack of training that misled him at first?

Matt Grantham:

--- Quote from: Mitch Todd on July 08, 2018, 05:43:34 AM ---Are you sure that the evidence provided actually pointed to homicide, or was it Eaglesham's inexperience and lack of training that misled him at first?

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 If I understand the Eaglesham story he claims the Navy pathologists were incorrect about their assertions of two bullet wounds, on on each side of the head, no powder residue near the wounds, or on Pitzer's hands

I thought Eaglesham's involvement was in correcting this original story, and pointing out how these original findings were incorrect

What am I missing?

Mitch Todd:

--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 08, 2018, 04:42:35 AM ---O.K   But before returning to Eaglesham's four points of correction that you cite, let's at least address the question of whether he had a film at Bethesda that showed a large hole in the right rear off JFKs skull As I recall in an earlier thread it was acknowledged there were remote cameras at Bethesda that Pfitzer could have had access to If so he certainly qualifies as a potential target with anyone involved with a coverup


 I am going to dig deeper into your links, but do you know if a toxicology report was done on Pfitzer off hand?

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I need to come back to this to answer your question about Pitzer's alleged film. The idea is that Pitzer was able to record the autopsy via closed ckt TV.

You might want to step back and consider the following video, featuring a 1963 B&W TV camera. Look at how big it is, and that it pretty much requires someone to physically manhandle it around. Those things also needed a great deal of power, generated a lot of heat, and needed a lot of lighting in order to register a good image. I figure that, if someone were filming the autopsy, everyone in the room would know it.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bTVinD3Go

Matt Grantham:

--- Quote from: Mitch Todd on July 08, 2018, 06:08:03 AM ---I need to come back to this to answer your question about Pitzer's alleged film. The idea is that Pitzer was able to record the autopsy via closed ckt TV.

You might want to step back and consider the following video, featuring a 1963 B&W TV camera. Look at how big it is, and that it pretty much requires someone to physically manhandle it around. Those things also needed a great deal of power, generated a lot of heat, and needed a lot of lighting in order to register a good image. I figure that, if someone were filming the autopsy, everyone in the room would know it.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bTVinD3Go
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OK but I am not understanding why you are not responding in regard to the suicide ruling given the evidence at the time

Mitch Todd:

--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 08, 2018, 05:57:31 AM --- If I understand the Eaglesham story he claims the Navy pathologists were incorrect about their assertions of two bullet wounds, on on each side of the head, no powder residue near the wounds, or on Pitzer's hands

I thought Eaglesham's involvement was in correcting this original story, and pointing out how these original findings were incorrect

What am I missing?

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I haven't read it it a while, but...

The lack of powder tattooing around the entry wound is because the muzzle was held firmly against the head at the time of firing. In those instances, the unburned gunpowder follows the bullet into the head instead of collecting on the skin around the wound, as it would at ranges of < 3'. You also tend to see a muzzzle imprint on the skin at the entry site, and the entry on Pitzer's temple showed just such an imprint.

Eaglesham explains that the lack of a residue test to find residue on the hands is due to the sample being improperly prepared.

And I think the "two bullet wounds" refers to the entry and exit.

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