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The William Pitzer Murder
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Mitch Todd on July 10, 2018, 12:59:29 AM ---Eaglesham sent copies of the photos plus a report of his discoveries/findings to Cyril Wecht and Herbert McDonnell for their input.
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Wecht did not respond I assume
Were the original navy autopsy examiners contacted
I see nothing to indicate a person is less likely to have gunshot residue on their hands than other shootings It is tough to find estimates, at least for me, on how reliable they were in 63
It is also unclear on the protocol for when toxicology test should be preformed. Couldn't find anything clear online so i used a platform for ask a pathologist . will see if I get a response
This link was interesting and included the following oints
The FBI estimates the gun was 3 feet from Pitzers head
Pitzer supposedly checks out the gun the day of the his death but the signature is illegible
Several notes are found that Pitzer was writing right before his death One of these notes has a shoe print that was not Pitzers
Fracture, comminuted, supraorbital plate, sphenoid bone, left... After removal of the brain a third defect in the bony skull is encountered. This consists of a large defect in the left supra-orbital plate measuring 3.0 x 1.0 cm.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKpitzerW.htm
Matt Grantham:
At this point I am inclined to feel that the note Pitzer has written near, or at the time of, a possible attack, and which contains a partial unidentified heel print,is perhaps the most damning evidence for murder. anyone want to be posit another explanation? Does Eaglesham ever mention it?
Ray Mitcham:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 10, 2018, 01:57:07 AM ---
Wecht did not respond I assume
Were the original navy autopsy examiners contacted
I see nothing to indicate a person is less likely to have gunshot residue on their hands than other shootings It is tough to find estimates, at least for me, on how reliable they were in 63
It is also unclear on the protocol for when toxicology test should be preformed. Couldn't find anything clear online so i used a platform for ask a pathologist . will see if I get a response
This link was interesting and included the following points
The FBI estimates the gun was 3 feet from Pitzers head
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Who shoots himself in the head with a pistol held three feet from his head?
Mitch Todd:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 10, 2018, 01:57:07 AM ---
Wecht did not respond I assume
Were the original navy autopsy examiners contacted
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Wecht did respond: http://www.manuscriptservice.com/WBP-Resolution/WechtConversation.pdf
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 10, 2018, 01:57:07 AM ---I see nothing to indicate a person is less likely to have gunshot residue on their hands than other shootings It is tough to find estimates, at least for me, on how reliable they were in 63
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There was residue:
"I believe that they missed an important clue in this regard, which is present in the autopsy photographs: William Pitzer's left hand had a heavy deposit of soot on the palm and his right hand had a heavy deposit of soot on the backs of the fingers. This suggests that he held and fired the revolver with his right hand, and steadied it with his left hand held over the barrel. Soot and gunshot residue would thus be propelled into the wound or would be blocked by the palm of the left hand as it escaped from around the barrel, some of which would be deflected over the backs of the fingers of the right hand"
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 10, 2018, 01:57:07 AM ---It is also unclear on the protocol for when toxicology test should be preformed. Couldn't find anything clear online so i used a platform for ask a pathologist . will see if I get a response
This link was interesting and included the following points
[1] The FBI estimates the gun was 3 feet from Pitzers head
[2] Pitzer supposedly checks out the gun the day of the his death but the signature is illegible
[3] Several notes are found that Pitzer was writing right before his death One of these notes has a shoe print that was not Pitzers
[4]Fracture, comminuted, supraorbital plate, sphenoid bone, left... After removal of the brain a third defect in the bony skull is encountered. This consists of a large defect in the left supra-orbital plate measuring 3.0 x 1.0 cm.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKpitzerW.htm
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I numbered the points in barckets to make my response a bit clearer.
1.) The "gun was at least 3' away" issue has already been explained. The muzzle was held again the skin, so burning powder followed the
bullet directly into the head, instead of spreading out after clearing the muzzle and tattooing the area around the wound.
2.) The illegible signature implies what, exactly? Mine's not particularly easy to decipher, and I've yet to see a doctor's signature that doesn't look like some kind of alien pictograph from the LSD planet.
3.) Eaglesham described the shoe print as:
"One of the note-pages lying on the floor bore a partial heel print that was not linked with the deceased - described as a style used by the Goodyear Rubber Company. The print was photographed by the FBI 'for possible future reference.'"
But what does it really mean? Could have been the person who found the body, or a clumsy investigator. It might also have been made well before the death.
4.) This fracture is due to cavitation effects caused by the bullets passage.
Matt Grantham:
I do not have time to respond to the other issues at the moment
From Eagleshams website
If [Dennis] David had not been mistaken about which hand was Pitzer's dominant hand, he may not have mentioned his late friend to any reporter or researcher; few outside Pitzer's family and acquaintances would know his name or his story.
When forensic expert Herbert MacDonell opined that the death-scene photograph shows a bullet wound in the left temple, I felt certain that William Pitzer had been murdered. However, my meeting with SA DiPaola, viewing of the autopsy photographs, and reconsideration of the available information, have brought me to the belief that the gunshot wound was self-inflicted
From the Education forum in 2012
John Simkin said:
(4) Do you believe William Pitzer was murdered?
Dennis David replied
(4) I have read the autopsy report, the Investigation report of Bills death, and other material. I am not convinced he committed suicide, nor am I convinced he was murdered.
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