Triple Overpass Again

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Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Triple Overpass Again
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 10:42:02 PM »
I realize the smoke is getting pretty thick in terms of witnesses at the GN, so we might as well add some mirrors

I do like that suggestion.   :D

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Triple Overpass Again
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2018, 03:14:18 AM »
      "Ridiculous"? Not Hardly.  Those statements are Consistent and Corroborate each other. Why not include SA Landis, (standing on the Passenger side running board of the Queen Mary), and his statement as to seeing a guy running East across the North side of the Knoll toward The Steps as the Queen Mary sped toward the Triple Underpass? Or Sitzman telling Tink Thompson that after dismounting The Perch she Immediately Ran Down the knoll & then came back up it and talked with a G Man who provided ID? And what about Officer Hargis's WC Testimony of his running Up the knoll to the little "brick wall"? How about SA Lem Johns jumping out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car, running down Elm St, and then was left standing in the middle of Elm St as the JFK Motorcade sped away? NONE of this lengthy list is on Any assassination image(s) yet you naively throw in with Uncle Sam's long time buddy = The Kodak Connection.   

How can you be atop the TU and claim that a policeman ran or on his bike went up the grassy incline towards the TSBD?
That's not what they saw and it's not what they said, it is of course ridiculous.
That's the FEDs making less work for themselves. Having these witnesses describing a cop running toward their direction, the wrong direction, creates another line of enquiry to follow, if he's running toward the building they can turn it in and forgedaboutit.
Is that any clearer?

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Triple Overpass Again
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2018, 07:00:38 AM »
      "Ridiculous"? Not Hardly.  Those statements are Consistent and Corroborate each other. Why not include SA Landis, (standing on the Passenger side running board of the Queen Mary), and his statement as to seeing a guy running East across the North side of the Knoll toward The Steps as the Queen Mary sped toward the Triple Underpass? ......

A significant point of interest w.r.t. SA Landis.  You can see him duck at about the same time or just before the President was shot.   He saw something going down and must have felt that he was in the line of fire from a frontal assault.  I believe that coordinates with Z-322.  This is almost the same instant that the "bi-afro" girl hesitates and changes direction when running towards the President's limousine at about Z-322.   There is synergy between 2 different films to give a time reference.   She saw something at front that made her change direction.   That is my pet theory that the assassin came down off the steps and stepped in front of the car.  Driver Greer's head moved toward the windshield to protect from glass spray and that move can be seen in the Zapruder Frames.    The assassin fired 2 shots about 1/2 a second apart with a gun and then rolled into the grass behind/beside Altgens.         

I maintain that there was no Z-313 shot and that the President saw something happen in front of him, raised his arm to defend himsel and moved back in his seat.    This was his last move when the hand goes down.  That to me was a conscious move and not done as a subliminal reaction to Z-313 supposed head shot.   The major head shot came in at Z-329/330 where you can see the President's head turn into a red blob and Jacqueline begins to react and wants to leave the limousine.    Landis must have saw something that made him duck - no one else on the Queen Mary reacts.
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Offline Gary Craig

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Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Triple Overpass Again
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2018, 03:43:27 PM »
Good to see Psilocybin is making a comeback.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Triple Overpass Again
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 11:01:47 PM »
Someone must have watched a different film than the one I saw.

Offline Bruce Backlund

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Re: Triple Overpass Again
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2018, 02:24:49 AM »
Imo, if there was a shot from the Grassy Knoll, it was purposely a blank with smoke effect to draw attention away from the expert shooter at the SW window 6th floor TSBD and a 2nd shooter Daltex bldg. This GK shooter may have sat on the hood of the car where  muddy footprints were
found including on the rear bumper of the car. There may have been one other man, whom was with him. These 2 were probably the 2 men whom Lee Bowers saw, from the railyard tower behind the GK fence.

If it was a diversion shot, from GK, then it worked, since police and crowd  ran to the GK. Only 2 DPD seem to have reacted differently, Baker and Barnett. Baker, who saw pigeons fly from the rooftop of TSBD and headed that way,  rushing to the front entrance, and Barnett running to the side to observe the fire escape and also the back of TSBD. Barnett however failed to secure the WEST side of TSBD for up to 3 minutes.
Zeon,
 Interesting theory of a blank being fired and witnesses on the underpass seeing smoke. Would also fit with the acoustical evidence being a sub-sonic shot, (pistol) that missed. I always believed Holland's statements in regards to the puff of smoke. Yes, a diversion, but no actual shooter? Possible. Something out of the ordinary happened where the two men were standing behind the fence. Perhaps even a simple firecracker, ignited behind the fence with a cigarette and it's flash caught the eye of the man in the RR switching tower.
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