What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2018, 03:58:29 AM »

This is somewhat off topic... but is this a metal detector in the picture with the gun?
Or a parking meter on the curve (which would be odd)??


Online Mitch Todd

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2018, 05:06:32 AM »
This is somewhat off topic... but is this a metal detector in the picture with the gun?
Or a parking meter on the curve (which would be odd)??



Or, maybe a temporary flashing amber light.

Offline Jim Brazell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2018, 05:17:00 AM »




Jim, what exactly are you trying to say because here's what we know that can be proved beyond all doubt.

An Italian Carcano was filmed on the 6th floor and this footage of an Italian Carcano was broadcast on the afternoon of the 22nd. In the following video from DVP's YT channel @3:25 we see Oswald's Italian Carcano being shown that afternoon on WFAA-TV.


Here's how we know that Oswald's Carcano is the actual rifle found on the 6th floor because C2766 the rifle that Oswald bought from Kleins had a unique random gouge on the the forestock and this random gouge is exactly replicated on the 6th floor Italian Carcano and the Italian Carcano that is seen being held by Lt Day at the DPD and all on the 22nd.



And if that wasn't enough here's an Italian Carcano being removed from the Depository on the same afternoon.





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My goodness....I'm new here but I see how this works. No disrespect intended but No one answers my questions about identifying the rifle found BY THE SERIAL NUMBER AND MAKE STAMPED ON THE RIFLE !!! Why look at the some random gouge...just take the magnifying glass and look at this info. There's a reason why they stamp this stuff on the gun ! This isn't rocket science.So, MY QUESTION is why not simply look at this info and resolve all doubt ? I posted this very SAME film here myself. There is a shorter Alyea film that starts with a man in a suit with a rifle(as only 2 newsmen were supposedly there and it was cordoned off we assume it's a law enforcement official)...as he quickly moves away from the window, he first looks like he wants to make a quick exit through the boxes on the right side and seeing that is not possible he heads straight ahead toward the camera man. The gun has no scope and appears to have a silencer on it. A similar rifle with no scope is seen on the street with a gathering around it.

So to keep this on a see Spot run, see Spot catch the ball level....1). WHY was the gun not identified by serial number and make on the spot....the gun was right in front of he & Fritz...magnifying glass in hand. 2). WHY not an immediate rebuttal of Weitzman's "It IS a Mauser" if it was known as you saythat it was a MC ? 3). WHY allow such misinformation to hit the media and take 24 hours to be corrected? 4). Why would Day handle the gun(such crucial evidence) by the trigger & trigger handle?  5) WHY is it assumed that only one gun was found?...there are pictures of 2 and possibly 3 guns found. There are witnesses stating there was movement on the SOUTHWEST corner of the 6th floor right before the shooting If 2-5 are too taxing, please answer #1 !!!

This has been just on the Mauser subject...what make and caliber of rifle do you think fired from the 2nd floor of the County Records Bldg. in the Robert Hughes film ? windshield hole? manhole cover ? I mean I can go on.         

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #94 on: July 03, 2018, 02:47:19 PM »

Jim, I looked at the Alyea film again... The narrator does say "there's an officer with the gun"... The officer is looking out the window and then walks toward the camera. The gun he is holding really looks like a pump shot-gun, in my opinion (if I'm actually looking at the same one you mention). It would be good if we had better film copy to analyze...

But yes, I agree. On site where the gun was found, there should have been positive identification without any question or doubt. Instead we get "it looks like... he said it was..., etc."
We're either dealing with the Keystone cops, or there is something else, perhaps sinister, going on with the Mauser issue....
Jake

Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #95 on: July 03, 2018, 03:24:08 PM »
 It would also be nice to get a clearer picture of what went on for those 45 minutes until they found the rifle

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #96 on: July 03, 2018, 03:34:45 PM »
This is pedantic nonsense.  Here is a simple question.  Why would the conspirators link Oswald to an MC rifle but leave a Mauser at the TSBD?  If you don't believe any shots were fired from the TSBD, why leave two guns there?  If you think JFK was assassinated with the Mauser, why not link Oswald to that rifle instead of the MC rifle and save themselves the obvious risk and trouble of having to retrieve a second rifle from the authorities?   The Mauser issue is completely ridiculous.  Second only to the endless thread about the bag.  A misstatement was made because the MC rifle looks similar.  It is then repeated by others.  Eventually it is corrected.  End of story.

Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #97 on: July 03, 2018, 03:47:45 PM »
The fundamental level of analysis is the authorities ability to investigate the scene and to record their findings

A second level would be to tie the evidence at the scene to a shooter and other physical evidence

A third level would be for the authorities involved to justify any inconsistencies in their investigation

At the bottom of the list is Richard Smith's belief that those who question anything are at the top of the list in terms of justifying their questions
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