What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #371 on: January 16, 2019, 04:07:05 AM »
WOW! Brilliant. You can call them the "magical clip" and the "magical bullet theory". I'll stick with what they really are: The brass clip from Oswald's rifle and the single bullet of the single bullet theory. There is nothing magical about either of them.

Why would I not believe a lone gunman with one gun was responsible for JFK'S death, when the evidence overwhelmingly establishes that he was?
Too many inconsistencies surrounding the weapon, as far as Oswald whereabouts we all can agree he was in the building and even the at certain locations, but unfortunately, not at precise times except, of course, before and after  Some people believe Oswald + gun +sixth-floor=guilty and some should, but only because the explanation for the crime benefits from Oswald never receiving an opportunity to a defense even in the short period of time between Oswald's arrest and Oswald's death no tape recording or notes of his interrogation. Pretty basic stuff. The case would have been thrown out.  Take Oswald + gun, take any one of your choosing + the Carcano, for that matter, and then replicate the shots fired.  You can't, lying CBS can't, etc. etc. Not even close


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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #372 on: January 16, 2019, 04:51:02 AM »
Too many inconsistencies surrounding the weapon, as far as Oswald whereabouts we all can agree he was in the building and even the at certain locations, but unfortunately, not at precise times except, of course, before and after  Some people believe Oswald + gun +sixth-floor=guilty and some should, but only because the explanation for the crime benefits from Oswald never receiving an opportunity to a defense even in the short period of time between Oswald's arrest and Oswald's death no tape recording or notes of his interrogation. Pretty basic stuff. The case would have been thrown out.  Take Oswald + gun, take any one of your choosing + the Carcano, for that matter, and then replicate the shots fired.  You can't, lying CBS can't, etc. etc. Not even close

What are the inconsistencies surrounding the weapon? As far as replicating the shots, it's easily done.  Three shots in 8.7 seconds with one of them being a direct hit on the target. That target being the head. You say that CBS can't but what do you mean by that? Did they try to replicate the shots and fail to do so? And what exactly were the shots that they were trying to replicate?

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #373 on: January 16, 2019, 06:08:48 AM »
What are the inconsistencies surrounding the weapon? As far as replicating the shots, it's easily done.  Three shots in 8.7 seconds with one of them being a direct hit on the target. That target being the head. You say that CBS can't but what do you mean by that? Did they try to replicate the shots and fail to do so? And what exactly were the shots that they were trying to replicate?

What do you mean what do I mean?

You know exactly what I mean. One time did a person fire fast enough, once with speed but accuracy was missing and this among several attempts that failed. Of course, you can make the rules up as you go along, it's learned behavior. Why not say Annie Oakley did it? At least it's creative, but to roll over at every turn for some legit evidence which is always followed by tainted or missing evidence?

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #374 on: January 16, 2019, 06:13:29 AM »
What are the inconsistencies surrounding the weapon? As far as replicating the shots, it's easily done.  Three shots in 8.7 seconds with one of them being a direct hit on the target. That target being the head. You say that CBS can't but what do you mean by that? Did they try to replicate the shots and fail to do so? And what exactly were the shots that they were trying to replicate?

     "Easily Done" ?? When has anyone, anywhere, at Any point in time actually Replicated the Magic Bullet shot? Even the Hokey JFK Specials have that bullet flying into/bouncing off of the dash board rendering a slug that is beat to hell. 

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #375 on: January 16, 2019, 06:27:15 AM »
Referring to the Mannlicher Carcano with the serial number c 2766...

The gun could be used for a prop in a play at best.

That's right on the money...And that's what De M and Lee O intended to use it for, when they ordered it from Kleins...

Lee used it in the BY photo CE 133A to make himself appear to be a well armed communist revolutionary in the image of Fidel Castro ( Castro frequently was photographed while holding a rifle) 

And he left it beneath a pile of brush after a bullet was fired through Walker's window...He intended for the police dogs to find the rifle and then the police could easily have traced that unusual rifle to him.....  And when they visited his apartment They would have found the blue note book that was full of information, which included the photos of him holding the carcano, Walker's house, the vicinity of Walker's house, Bus schedules and maps of the area, and probably the note which instructed Marina what she should do if he had been captured or killed.  And of course Lee would have been on his way to Cuba to escape prosecution .


Walt, the whole case is flimsy. I don't have to prove anything because I don't claim to know who did it but you do? 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #376 on: January 16, 2019, 04:23:05 PM »

Walt, the whole case is flimsy. I don't have to prove anything because I don't claim to know who did it but you do?

I don't have to prove anything because I don't claim to know who did it but you do?

Yes as a matter of fact ...I do.... But do I have to prove the obvious?
It is universally accepted that the sun rises in the east every morning.....How can I prove that the sun rises in the east every morning?  When in a strict sense it does not "rise" (like a balloon floating up)  at all. 

The sun merely emerges from below the horizon in the direction that is universally accepted as EAST.....I'm sure that you will not dispute this information, even though I can't prove it....  And at one time centuries ago I could have been executed for entertaining or openly speaking about such heresy.

The same reasoning applies to the coup d e'tat.....   The "church" ( US government) simply doesn't want the peasants ( LBJ called us pissants) to know the truth. 


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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #377 on: January 16, 2019, 05:47:38 PM »
I don't have to prove anything because I don't claim to know who did it but you do?

Yes as a matter of fact ...I do.... But do I have to prove the obvious?
It is universally accepted that the sun rises in the east every morning.....How can I prove that the sun rises in the east every morning?  When in a strict sense it does not "rise" (like a balloon floating up)  at all. 

The sun merely emerges from below the horizon in the direction that is universally accepted as EAST.....I'm sure that you will not dispute this information, even though I can't prove it....  And at one time centuries ago I could have been executed for entertaining or openly speaking about such heresy.

The same reasoning applies to the coup d e'tat.....   The "church" ( US government) simply doesn't want the peasants ( LBJ called us pissants) to know the truth.

     Walter - Why not just admit you are offering an Opinion? You look silly going into this klutzy Mr Bojangles routine.