What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #357 on: January 15, 2019, 10:53:48 PM »
Why would it have been rattling around?

It was 'spinning like a top' according to Waldo.

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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #358 on: January 15, 2019, 11:09:56 PM »
Can't remember the detectives name right now....But that Alyea Footage was taken on the fifth floor.  The detectve is at the WEST END window...   Which is interesting because one of the early film clips is also focused on that west end window...The reporter says something like "that's the window there" as the camera shows the window.

Will call him guilty, Walt.

Now back to the important part, the gun in his left hand. You know, it's a long object.

Online Royell Storing

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #359 on: January 15, 2019, 11:27:49 PM »
Why would it have been rattling around?

    When Empty, the Clip is supposed to Immediately Fall Down and Out of the rifle magazine. The Clip Not being visible dangling from the magazine means: (1) It is Loose/Free inside the weapon, or (2) Completely Absent/Missing from the weapon.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #360 on: January 15, 2019, 11:33:58 PM »
It was 'spinning like a top' according to Waldo.

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I recall Walt spending an enormous amount of time arguing that the clip could not be seen in any of the photos and film footage taken inside of the TSBD, and that meant it had in fact fallen out when Fritz operated the bolt and "ejected" the unspent round.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #361 on: January 15, 2019, 11:37:45 PM »
    When Empty, the Clip is supposed to Immediately Fall Down and Out of the rifle magazine. The Clip Not being visible dangling from the magazine means: (1) It is Loose/Free inside the weapon, or (2) Completely Absent/Missing from the weapon.

The clips do not always do what they're supposed to. They sometimes stick and have to be forced out by hand. Oswald's was like that. Being loose/free inside the weapon does not mean that it was free to move side to side enough to rattle around.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #362 on: January 15, 2019, 11:50:07 PM »
    When Empty, the Clip is supposed to Immediately Fall Down and Out of the rifle magazine. The Clip Not being visible dangling from the magazine means: (1) It is Loose/Free inside the weapon, or (2) Completely Absent/Missing from the weapon.

The BRASS clip does NOT rattle around  in the magazine ...Brass is non ferrous  and can be compared to copper ...it simply doesn't clink or rattle like a ferrous metal...

I just placed an empty brass clip in a carcano and I shook it, in an effort to make the clip rattle... It did not...Hoever something interesting happened...The clip slipped down to the exact point that the clip is seen in Alyea's film,... which is about 1/8 of an inch of the clip visible in the magazine....

Believe it or not....

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #363 on: January 15, 2019, 11:59:11 PM »
a cheesy weapon which is about as lethal as two-inch plastic toy gun a child could get free out of a Perkin's wishing well

Are you talking about the rifle used in 9 wars, including I & II

If someone ever points an MC at you, I suggest you duck..
The gun could be used for a prop in a play at best. And if you're saying it was used to kill Kennedy, wait a second. Think of the most outrageous theory you have heard, how about the one where the Limo Driver,  Agent Greer, is the Assasin. As silly as that sounds, it's not as silly as being told it was some Italian gun parts cobbled together then used by LHO.  A reasonable person would not believe either as the truth.