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Video of Baker heading to TSBD

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Matt Grantham:

--- Quote from: Bill Chapman on June 28, 2018, 02:11:47 AM ---Kennedy's fists are already at his throat, meaning two shots have already been fired

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 Sorry your response is an utter non sequitur. Did you believe one of the first two shots was a frontal shot?

Bill Chapman:

--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 28, 2018, 04:10:32 PM --- Sorry your response is an utter non sequitur. Did you believe one of the first two shots was a frontal shot?

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I'm not claiming any frontal shots.

Not a non-sequitur: you said the two agents looking back at the TSBD wouldn't have had time to turn around. They had already heard shots. Look at the  image of JFK's fists at his throat. The first shot missed and the twofer had already passed through the victims.

Bill Chapman:

--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 28, 2018, 03:46:57 PM ---I like the hree choice option of said, implied, or meanr

John M said   Well duh, people ran to where Kennedy was shot.

 That could be implied that he was shot in the Limo

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Inside the limo was the POTUS. Inside the POTUS were bullet wounds. The limo, the POTUS and his bullet wounds were already speeding away from the scene. Tell us how you can claim that the limo was the place that JohnM meant when saying 'where Kennedy was shot'

Matt Grantham:

--- Quote from: Bill Chapman on June 28, 2018, 05:13:06 PM ---No

Not a non-sequitur: you said the two agents looking back at the TSBD wouldn't have had time to turn around. They had already heard shots. Look at the  image of JFK's fists at his throat. The first shot missed and the twofer had already passed through the victims.

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 It might help if you posted what I said which is-

As to looking back in Altgens six, the frontal shot has not either happened yet or they have not had time to react to it/them


 The frontal shot is generally the one referred to at 313 by us folks 

Zeon Mason:
Whats really going to throw a wrench into it all, is Mrs. Robert A. Reid's WC testimony describing exactly the  point at which she decided to return into TSBD:


Mr. BELIN. Before you turned and went back into the building did you---did Mr. Campbell say anything to you?
Mrs. REID. He said, "Oh, Mrs. Reid, no, it came from the grassy area down this way," and that was the last I said to him.
Mr. BELIN. All right. When he said "this way" which direction was he pointing?
Mrs. REID. Well, I hope I get my directions. In the direction of the parade was going, in the bottom of that direction
Mr. BELIN. Now, did you look around after the shots and notice what people were doing?
Mrs. REID. Well, it was just a mass of confusion. I saw people beginning to fall, and the thought that went through my mind, my goodness I must get out of this line of shots, they may fire some more. And don't ask me why I went into the building because I don't know.
Mr. BELIN. Did you see anything else of people running or doing anything else?
Mrs. REID. No; because I ran into the building. I do not recall seeing anyone in the lobby. I ran up to our office.


Now if someone can point out Mrs Reid in this Couch film, that would be most helpful, because i personally do not see a woman about 50+ years old, with glasses and white scarf, that was the woman seen standing beside Mr.Campbell in the Weigmann film clip, a film sequence preceding the Couch film sequence approx 25 sec before Couch flim captures Baker running.

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