The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2021, 12:47:14 AM »
Hine has no reason to be anything other than totally honest about her recollection of the shots.
Debris fell on the heads of the three stooges as a result of the shots.
Eddie Piper describes the first floor window as shaking.

Dal Tex??
Really?

Yes... really.....  Even if you have no experience with fire arms common sense dictates that the closer you are to the source of the gun fire the louder the report.    AND the bang at the muzzle end of a rifle is much louder than the bang to the rear of the muzzle.....  In a confined space (Like the chasm between The TSBD and the Dal-Tex buildings) that muzzle blast is amplified.

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2021, 12:23:51 AM »
Yes... really.....  Even if you have no experience with fire arms common sense dictates that the closer you are to the source of the gun fire the louder the report.    AND the bang at the muzzle end of a rifle is much louder than the bang to the rear of the muzzle.....  In a confined space (Like the chasm between The TSBD and the Dal-Tex buildings) that muzzle blast is amplified.

Bollocks

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2021, 07:33:01 PM »
Bollocks

I don't believe that there were any shots fired from the TSBD.   ( And I strongly believe the bullet that tore JFK's brain out of his skull was fired from the front.   AND .....I believe the bullet that struck Connally was fired from the rear.  The evidence points to these conclusions.    So it's possible that the bullet that struck Connally was fired from the Dal Tex.

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2021, 08:21:36 PM »
I don't believe that there were any shots fired from the TSBD.   ( And I strongly believe the bullet that tore JFK's brain out of his skull was fired from the front.   AND .....I believe the bullet that struck Connally was fired from the rear.  The evidence points to these conclusions.    So it's possible that the bullet that struck Connally was fired from the Dal Tex.

I am of the opinion that three shots (and only three) were fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD.
The first shot went through both men.
The shot that blew JFK's head open was fired from behind.

"The evidence points to these conclusions"

If I recall correctly you refuse to examine the Zapruder footage, the most important piece of evidence in this case (IMO)
Excuse me if I take your pronouncements on where the evidence leads with a pinch of salt.

Treat this as a thought experiment - something you don't have to believe or accept.
If shots were fired on the 6th floor, could the booming, reverberation of these shots exiting the fully open windows at the south-west corner of the 6th floor, give the impression the shots were coming from the west of the TSBD to ear-witnesses in Dealey Plaza.
That was the point of my original post (# 35)

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2021, 08:44:16 PM »
I am of the opinion that three shots (and only three) were fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD.
The first shot went through both men.
The shot that blew JFK's head open was fired from behind.

"The evidence points to these conclusions"

If I recall correctly you refuse to examine the Zapruder footage, the most important piece of evidence in this case (IMO)
Excuse me if I take your pronouncements on where the evidence leads with a pinch of salt.

Treat this as a thought experiment - something you don't have to believe or accept.
If shots were fired on the 6th floor, could the booming, reverberation of these shots exiting the fully open windows at the south-west corner of the 6th floor, give the impression the shots were coming from the west of the TSBD to ear-witnesses in Dealey Plaza.
That was the point of my original post (# 35)

If shots were fired on the 6th floor, could the booming, reverberation of these shots exiting the fully open windows at the south-west corner of the 6th floor, give the impression the shots were coming from the west of the TSBD to ear-witnesses in Dealey Plaza.

Wow!...This is a tuff question....  And it calls for a speculative answer which would be based on a person experience with firearms and the sound of gunfire.

I'll wager that if you ask a combat veteran who had experienced gunfire if he could determine where the shots were being fired from, he would tell you that "Yes"  he could determine the location of the gun that was being fired.   

But in answer to your question.....I truly doubt that the sound of shots from inside of the TSBD could be mistaken for shots from  somewhere outside of the building...   I believe the building would act as a large muffler....So that the sounds of shots from INSIDE the building would not be very loud on the outside of the building.

I don't expect you to immediately jump "on my band wagon" ....but I hope that you'll see the absurdity in the claim of witnesses who were standing on the north side of Elm near the north pergola. They described the sound of the shot ( singular)as a very loud ear shattering explosion.  Commonsense dictates that this shot was not fired from INSDE the TSBD on the sixth floor.
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