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Offline Brian Walker

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Ruth Paine
« on: July 09, 2013, 03:26:02 PM »
Did Ruth Paine have  six or seven metal filing cabinets full of letters, maps, records and index cards with names of pro-Castro sympathizers as has been claimed. Does anyone know anything about this.

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Re: Ruth Paine
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 03:53:29 PM »
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Did Ruth Paine have  six or seven metal filing cabinets full of letters, maps, records and index cards with names of pro-Castro sympathizers as has been claimed. Does anyone know anything about this.

This is the first I have heard of this. Who has claimed this?

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Re: Ruth Paine
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 11:21:46 PM »
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Did Ruth Paine have six or seven metal filing cabinets full of letters, maps, records and index cards with names of pro-Castro sympathizers as has been claimed. Does anyone know anything about this.

This claim has been doing the rounds for years Brian, I too, on several occasions, have asked for a source, cite..anything to back it up, no one has ever been able to do so. IMO it's just another 'factoid'.

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Re: Ruth Paine
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 02:06:43 AM »
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Did Ruth Paine have six or seven metal filing cabinets full of letters, maps, records and index cards with names of pro-Castro sympathizers as has been claimed? Does anyone know anything about this?

It's very likely just another one of the dozens of myths that conspiracy theorists love to tout as true about the JFK case.

And let's stop and think about this for a moment from the POV of the CTers who think Ruth Paine was a "CIA agent" who was attempting to manipulate and frame Lee Oswald for Kennedy's murder in 1963:

In such a circumstance, with Ruth being a "CIA" employee involved in a lot of underhanded shenanigans, would it make any sense for Ruth to keep on her property (or, in general, traceable back to her) six or seven filing cabinets filled with stuff that could only make the authorities (and the conspiracy theorists) suspicious about what she was up to? IMO, the whole thing is just silly to begin with.

And were the six or seven filing cabinets supposedly stored in this small garage of hers in Irving (pictured below)? Or were the cabinets kept by Ruth at her secret "CIA BatCave" somewhere else? Or did Ruth only start amassing her files on pro-Castro people AFTER she supposedly helped frame Lee Harvey Oswald for JFK's murder? ~shrug~





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Re: Ruth Paine
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Quote from: Brian Walker
Did Ruth Paine have six or seven metal filing cabinets full of letters, maps, records and index cards with names of pro-Castro sympathizers as has been claimed? Does anyone know anything about this?

It's very likely just another one of the dozens of myths that conspiracy theorists love to tout as true about the JFK case.

And let's stop and think about this for a moment from the POV of the CTers who think Ruth Paine was a "CIA agent" who was attempting to manipulate and frame Lee Oswald for Kennedy's murder in 1963:

In such a circumstance, with Ruth being a "CIA" employee involved in a lot of underhanded shenanigans, would it make any sense for Ruth to keep on her property (or, in general, traceable back to her) six or seven filing cabinets filled with stuff that could only make the authorities (and the conspiracy theorists) suspicious about what she was up to? IMO, the whole thing is just silly to begin with.

And were the six or seven filing cabinets supposedly stored in this small garage of hers in Irving (pictured below)? Or were the cabinets kept by Ruth at her secret "CIA BatCave" somewhere else? Or did Ruth only start amassing her files on pro-Castro people AFTER she supposedly helped frame Lee Harvey Oswald for JFK's murder? ~shrug~





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Where are all the curtain rods in that photo. As usual
for a WC defender you only show what you want us
to see for propaganda value.

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Re: Ruth Paine
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 07:06:16 AM »
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Nice to know that Ruth and Michael Paine weren't hiding anything.

Do conspiracy theorists actually believe that anything in that "set of file cabinets" could possibly have any relation to any alleged "CIA" activity revolving around either Ruth or Michael Paine and a plot to frame Lee Oswald for JFK's assassination?

According to Deputy Walthers' report in Decker Exhibit 5323, the cabinets were seized on either Nov. 22 or 23 and were found right there in Ruth Paine's house in Irving. And if Ruth had been "setting up" Oswald for weeks (or months) prior to Nov. 22, as many conspiracists believe, she, of course, would have to know that the police would be searching her residence right after the assassination, since she was allowing the wife of the "patsy" to stay at her house and since the "patsy" himself stayed there the night before the assassination.

All of this indicates, of course, that whatever was in those filing cabinets could not possibly be some "key" to link Ruth and Michael Paine to an assassination plot, nor could it be a key to link the Paines to the CIA -- unless, that is, the conspiracy theorists want to believe that Ruth Paine was a very very stupid person. And by just listening to Ruth speak for only a few minutes, it's fairly obvious that the word "stupid" does not apply to Mrs. Ruth Hyde Paine.
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