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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #126 on: June 25, 2018, 08:32:23 PM »
That is quite a yarn.  I'm surprised you haven't taken this to the NY Times and won a pultizer prize for solving the assassination of the president.  All you lack is any real evidence.  Honestly, I hope you don't believe any of that.  Experts - and not the type of self-proclaimed "researchers" who frequent these boards - have confirmed without any doubt that the photos are not faked.  That has been put to rest.

You don't have a clue, do you? The DPD supposedly found 2 negatives (they lied) and only one negative was made available to the Warren Commission; the other has never been accounted for. HSCA analysed this negative and 7 various prints that had been made from 3 negatives. They found no sign of fakery.

Didn't you read/comprehend my post that it is simple to fool analysts by creating new negatives by photographing doctored prints? The film grain is consistent and all trace of tampering goes poof. You need to get out more.

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But I was addressing your point that Oswald would not have posed for these photos had he been the JFK assassin.  That argument is entirely without merit since at the time they were taken Oswald had no clue that he would assassinate JFK.
I never claimed that and it was not my argument. Lee's handler didn't have to tell him what he was being sheep-dipped for. Get it?

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As a result, why would be care at the time they were taken if they showed him with the rifle in a nutty pose?  His intent at that time appears to have been to cultivate an image of himself as a pro-commie revolutionary to gain entry to Cuba.
Who exactly were these photos for then? Roscoe White, de Mohrenschildt? How were they going to advance his lone nut pro-commie agenda? LOL

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So the photos worked perfectly in Oswald's demented narrative of himself.  He was a kook.  Doing what kooks do.  Exactly the type of nut who might take his gun to work when he became aware that the opportunity to assassinate the president had fallen right into his lap.
Thank you Dr. Freud. We all know who the kook is here. But you are right about 1 thing, JFK did fall right into his lap. Imagine that.


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #127 on: June 25, 2018, 10:33:51 PM »


But Roscoe wasn't savvy enough ....

JT...Those pictures were sufficient enough to accomplish the purpose of vilifying Oswald as the assassin. I concede that it was done quite professionally. 

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Now that Oswald's chin, nostrils, and watch have been covered, I hope Caprio moves on to other important matters like whether Oswald wore boxers or briefs and asks us to prove where he purchased them.  Giving new meaning to supporting evidence.

Supporting evidence would also include a whichever jock strap?
Rick's contributions are just absolutely underwhelming.


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #128 on: June 25, 2018, 11:50:01 PM »
JT...Those pictures were sufficient enough to accomplish the purpose of vilifying Oswald as the assassin. I concede that it was done quite professionally. 

Posted by: Richard Smith
Supporting evidence would also include a whichever jock strap?
Rick's contributions are just absolutely underwhelming.

Those pictures were sufficient enough to accomplish the purpose of vilifying Oswald as the assassin.

Those pictures??.....  There was only ONE photo originally.....And that photo by itself  was NOT sufficient to convict Lee Oswald in the public's mind ...and that's why the authorities kept it hidden from the public.    Lee Oswald immediately pronounced the photo they showed him to be a fake...  They reasoned that if Lee Oswald spotted the fakery so quickly then they dare not show the photo to the public where there were thousands of photo analysts who might also spot the fakery...( What the dunder neads failed to realize was Lee KNEW what the photo that he had Marina take looked like because he had worked with that photo  CE 133A)....So naturally when they showed him 133c he knew it was a fake.

The authorities finally released the photo ( CE 133A ) on the cover of Life Magazine. where is was displayed like a post Office wanted fugitive flyer and captioned...Lee Harvey Oswald with the guns he used to kill President Kennedy and Officer JD Tippit.

If viewers had just used their own God given brain they would have laughed at the ridiculous carnival photo aspect of the amateur attempt to trick the viewer into believing the man in the photo was a armed and ready communist revolutionary.
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #129 on: June 26, 2018, 12:00:09 AM »
Still waiting for a brave LNer to take a stab at my 1st question...

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March 31, 1963: Marina takes at least 5 infamous "Backyard Photos" of LHO and burns 1. (Originally she recalled only taking 1).

April 5, 1963: Date written on back of 5"x5" print of CE 133-A allegedly written by Oswald and given to George de Mohrenschildt.

The two prints originally found among Oswald?s possessions were described by the HSCA panel as ?drugstore or photofinisher prints because they appeared to have been produced on the type of commercial photo printing machine used by photofinishers for camera stores, drugstores and mass-produced prints.? The prints are small 3?x3?, with a white border and markings consistent with an automated commercial machine.

The de Mohrenschildt print is larger 5?x5? and described as ?probably made in a high quality enlarger with a high quality lens? due to its increased resolution. The panel notes that ?the entire negative area is printed? (showing more picture than the cropped ?drugstore? print), and that the print had yellowed, ?indicating that it was not adequately fixed or washed during the development process?.

So correct me if I'm wrong, Oswald had the film roll developed in a drugstore, cut up the negatives into single frames and had at least 1 print made of CE 133-A in a photo-lab, wrote an inscription on the back and gave it to his handler George de Mohrenschildt all in less than 5 days.

My question

What drugstore back in 63 had a turnaround time of a couple of days so that Oswald could take the negative to a photo-lab to create de Mohrenschildt's print, which also had a turnaround time of only a couple of days?

Online John Mytton

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #130 on: June 26, 2018, 03:52:33 AM »

But Roscoe wasn't savvy enough to scale Oswald's head consistently with his body for CE 133-A & B:






Wow, so you've matched two heads and then say that the bodies don't match, are you for real?

Btw thanks for the animation, it shows Oswald's head in two distinct orientations, Caprio won't be pleased!

In fact the more that I look at the gif the more logical differences become apparent, like when the head rotates backwards the nose shadow is affected and becomes longer, similarly the eye shadows are also affected, the ears and the respective shadows rotate slightly and the chin shadow is affected by the slight variation.





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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #131 on: June 26, 2018, 01:51:59 PM »

I never claimed that and it was not my argument. Lee's handler didn't have to tell him what he was being sheep-dipped for. Get it?


Here is what you posted:  "What would-be assassin has himself photographed holding both murder weapons and commie lit 8 months before the "Big Event"? Baaa. (including a rifle with a useless scope). Give me a break."  I can realize why you want to runaway from it now, but the fact remains that you suggested that Oswald would not have posed for the BY photos in March while contemplating the JFK assassination 8 months later.  Thus, they must be faked.  What you apparently failed to understand is that Oswald had no clue at the time the photos were taken that he would be assassinating JFK.  Get it?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Backyard Photos Have Insomnia
« Reply #132 on: June 26, 2018, 03:31:36 PM »
I almost forgot this...

The rifle doesn't match with the shadows against the body
and of course: "Clumpy the Hand"



This is CE 133B....And there's no doubt that it's a fake.   The question is WHO? altered the photo?



Why does everybody overlook the most obvious indication of photo tampering in CE 133B??    The black triangle on the fence was added  when the background was used in creating a photo..... The black triangle was added beside the man's right thigh to enhance the rifle and make it more visible in the photo.  The photo apparently didn't meet the approval of the "artist"  and it was destroyed but he forgot that he had added the bit of rifle butt to the background when he created CE 133B.......