Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

[Bill Chapman]

Bugliosi's arguments are fallacious no matter what you believe about Oswald.

It's the usual strawman argument that any conspiracy would necessarily be vast, and have perfectly executed a plan that micromanaged every little detail of what ended up happening.

Whoa. Maybe bench your Wikipedia Strawman for a second here, professor: Pretty sure the psychological take on conspiracy-mongers is their seeming need to make sense of a pipsqueak/loser/nobody taking down the most powerful man in the world. Thus the 42 groups-84 shooters-214-people-accused of being involved pretty much puts to the lie any lack of vastiosity (as Woody Allen might say) from the fringers.

Oswald  = David
Kennedy = Goliath

Who'da thunk it?
Definitely not CTers

[Bill Chapman]

This is why lawyers shouldn't pretend to be scientists -- or that they care about the truth.

CTers shouldn't pretend to be lawyers or scientists
Or pretend that they care about the truth while at the same time twisting what witnesses and other people on the forum said or what they meant. Or what the witnesses saw or didn't see.

[Jerry Freeman]

Or what the witnesses saw or didn't see.

One question- yes or no...would the FBI lie?

Bonnie Ray Williams- His Altered Testimony
By John Butler | Published: June 26, 2018
 
Bonnie Ray Williams gave testimony concerning the assassination of President Kennedy on numerous occasions.   These were :

    11-22-63- This was an Affidavit In Any Fact sworn at the Dallas County Sheriff?s Office Patsy Collins
    11-23-63- Federal Bureau of Investigation FD-302 2 pages Barwell Odum and Will Griffin
    1-14-64- Federal Bureau of Investigation FD-302 Unknown agents
    3-19-64- Federal Bureau of Investigation FD-302 A. Raymond Switzer and Eugene F. Petrakis
    3-24-64- Warren Commission testimony, Vol. III page 161
    5-26-64- Federal Bureau of Investigation FD-302 A. Raymond Switzer and Eugene F. Petrakis

The FBI considered Bonnie Ray Williams as a Key Person in the investigation. Bonnie Ray Williams was a star witness. But, his testimony had to be adjusted over time so that he would be saying the right thing when Bonnie Ray Williams finally arrived at the Warren Commission hearing on 3-24-64 in Washington D.C.

How would Bonnie Ray Williams and his altered testimony outline the Gauntlet Theory? How would his testimony exemplify what happened to many witnesses testimony that resulted in the grand deception on Elm Street. Well, that?s what this discussion is about. Starting on 11-23-63 his statements begin to evolve into something totally different from what he originally said on 11-22-63. The FBI were the agents of that evolution.

During the period 11-22-63 to 3-24-64 the only thing in his statements that remain fairly consistent is that the shooting he describes came from above him on the sixth floor. What did not stay consistent was the number of shots fired and president?s location when shots were fired. If his testimony of 11-22-63 was allowed to stand then there would be a different view of the assassination. Read Bonnie Ray Williams statement of 11-22-63 paying attention to the underlined portion and the notes at the bottom.

The first time Bonnie Ray Williams talks to the FBI is on 11-23-63. There are changes made to what he said just the day before at the Sherriff?s Office. The location of the shooting has changed from the Houston Street intersection to the Elm Street intersection in front of the TSBD. The number of shots remains at two in this FBI 302 below.

But it had to be three shots huh?
It  kept changing until another shot was finally mentioned.........

http://jfkrunningthegauntlet.com/2018/06/26/bonnie-ray-williams-his-altered-testimony/

[Jerry Freeman]

 Curious.......
How did we figure that he went to Walker lectures and ACLU meetings?

[Colin Crow]

Unfortunately we will never know as the SAC in charge of the Dallas Office was accused by Hosty of ordering him of destroying evidence relating to the deceased accused. We already know that an official of the FBI was prepared to alter evidence about Oswald in this case......the question is.......was this the precedent?

[John Iacoletti]

Fallacious Bugliosi Argument #23

This is the stupidest argument yet in a series of stupid arguments.  Where is it written that an assassination can only be attempted from one's place of employment?  Or that this strawman conspiracy had to micromanage every facet of everybody's lives for months and months?

[John Iacoletti]

Well, we lemmings do our research.

The funniest part of all is Bill "pretty sure" "if I recall correctly" Chapman lecturing anyone else on doing his research.