Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2018, 06:06:52 AM »



20. Without exception, all the pro-conspiracy books arguing that Oswald was a hit man for some powerful group (as we know, most contend he wasn?t involved in the assassination at all but was framed) promote the notion that Oswald?s relationship with the group went back some time, and for groups like U.S. intelligence and the KGB, at least four to five years. Further, they claim he was being groomed by them as a presidential assassin or for some other very serious mission. But how likely is it that with the biggest murder ever coming up on his plate, Oswald (on his own or with the group?s knowledge and consent) would try to murder some other public figure first? (As we know, Oswald attempted to murder Major General Edwin Walker just months earlier, on April 10, 1963.) Would the rationale be that he needed live target practice for the main event? As the expression goes, please.       

One footnote to this: Whatever group was allegedly behind Oswald, Walker, a virulent right winger who was one of the leaders of the John Birch Society in Dallas, would represent to their interests the exact opposite of what the moderately liberal JFK would. So there wouldn?t have been any commonality between the intended victims.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2018, 09:12:19 AM »
Absolutely correct, where are all of these "clandestine meetings" with espionage agents? They are nowhere to be found, we know what Oswald was doing almost all the time, no suspicious contacts.

Patsy? Why? Because LHO squealed about the FBI following him around? He wanted to see himself as a scape goat. Oh, yeah, let's take the word of a wife beater and use pretzel logic.

What "clandestine meetings"? Regardsless of your foolish claim, you really haven't got a clue what Oswald did "almost all the time". In fact, you can't even account for the time Oswald is supposed to go to the postoffice and arrange the money order for the purchase of the rifle?..

You probably don't (and likely never will) know every single person who he associated with in New Orleans and where he went. You also do not know exactly who he met and where he went on week days when he was by himself in Oak Cliff. 


Patsy? Why? Because LHO squealed about the FBI following him around? He wanted to see himself as a scape goat. Oh, yeah, let's take the word of a wife beater and use pretzel logic.


You clearly don't get the point I was making. Nobody is taking Oswald's word for anything.
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Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #142 on: June 30, 2018, 10:46:58 AM »
What "clandestine meetings"? Regardsless of your foolish claim, you really haven't got a clue what Oswald did "almost all the time". In fact, you can't even account for the time Oswald is supposed to go to the postoffice and arrange the money order for the purchase of the rifle?..

You probably don't (and likely never will) know every single who he associated with in New Orleans and where he went. You also do not know exactly who he met and where he went on week days when he was by himself in Oak Cliff. 

Do you know where your parents were on a day by day, hour by hour basis 30+ years ago? Do you know where they spent every last dollar of their income? Did they try to hide their movements from you and others or were they normal outgoing people? If they were normal well adjusted people despite much of their time not being unaccounted for what exactly is the point you are trying to make in relation to Oswald a notoriously secretive person?
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #143 on: June 30, 2018, 11:32:19 AM »
Do you know where your parents were on a day by day, hour by hour basis 30+ years ago? Do you know where they spent every last dollar of their income? Did they try to hide their movements from you and others or were they normal outgoing people? If they were normal well adjusted people despite much of their time not being unaccounted for what exactly is the point you are trying to make in relation to Oswald a notoriously secretive person?

The point I made is clear and obvious, but just in case you missed it; the foolish claim below is total BS


we know what Oswald was doing almost all the time


for one simple reason; we don't know what Oswald was doing when he was alone in Oak Cliff or New Orleans. 

Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2018, 12:27:04 PM »
... we don't know what Oswald was doing when he was alone in Oak Cliff or New Orleans.

We do know some of what he was doing but details are thin on the ground which is in itself an indication that he wasn't up to much at all. Despite 55 years of inquiries by hundreds of people there is no proof of Oswald being a key player in any organised group. He even had to make up his own group with a membership of one. I guess when it came time to pay his membership dues he'd take a dollar from the right pocket of his trousers and slip it into the left pocket. He was a legend in his own lunchtime but a nobody to most people.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2018, 12:46:49 PM »
Except from the above.
"as we know, most contend he wasn?t involved in the assassination at all but was framed".
At least the Bug got that part right.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2018, 06:33:15 PM »
We do know some of what he was doing but details are thin on the ground which is in itself an indication that he wasn't up to much at all. Despite 55 years of inquiries by hundreds of people there is no proof of Oswald being a key player in any organised group. He even had to make up his own group with a membership of one. I guess when it came time to pay his membership dues he'd take a dollar from the right pocket of his trousers and slip it into the left pocket. He was a legend in his own lunchtime but a nobody to most people.

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