James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness

[John Iacoletti]

It's pointless because you "don't care" about the question that's fundamental to the problem. And you haven't really even thought through what the word "same" means. I used it in the the sense of "indistinguishable", or, as M-W says: "corresponding so closely as to be indistinguishable." The trick is, "same" becomes  dependent on what can be distinguished. That is why I wasted a lot of words giving you example of a measuring device accurate to +/-1 cm, and you wasted a lot of time ignoring them. It can't really distinguish between objects that differ less than 2cm in length no matter what number you think you get. In short, "Same" has fuzzy, indistinct edges. The question in this case is how fuzzy those edges are. To wit (and I'll word it a bit differently this time): given the environment of Dealey Plaza 12:30 PM on Nov 22, 1963, how accurate would anyone be at locating a sound like a gunshot? That's the question you "don't care" about, and it's central to the discussion at hand. But you still want to argue about it.

I just disagree with you.  Two things are either the same or they are not the same.  What I don't care about is your convoluted justification for using the word "same" anyway.

It's pointless because we're never going to change each other's minds about that, so let it go.

[John Iacoletti]

'chief fabricator'
Nah, just artistic license

'thread hijacker'
Your failure to comprehend my 'left field' analogy is your burden

And it's one, two, three strikes, yer out!
You're benched, Little Johnny I

Wake me up if you ever decide to post anything relevant.

[Mitch Todd]

I just disagree with you.  Two things are either the same or they are not the same.  What I don't care about is your convoluted justification for using the word "same" anyway.

It's pointless because we're never going to change each other's minds about that, so let it go.

Every time I see you write "they are the same or not the same," I get this feeling that you're a programmer. They tend to argue that way, because so much of their world is built out of Boolean logic itself running on a carefully constructed landscape of FET transistors burning away in hysteresis. But that's an artificial world; the real one is much messier. Figuring out what is the same and what isn't is limited by the level of our ability to differentiate between things. If I look at a parking lot across the street, I can easily distinguish the Camrys, the Accords, the Corvettes, etc, from each other and from the other cars in the lot. Someone whose eyesight isn't as good might be able to figure out cars from trucks, but nothing more. And Stevie Wonder is simply out of luck. 

[Richard Rubio]

Boy, I know insults fly both ways but it really does seem like someone has derided, browbeat about anyone offering discussion. And that's the point, it is a discussion forum.

[Jerry Freeman]

Why not finally go with the reports that have been ignored because they did not conform to the official story?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1060.msg25459.html#msg25459

[Doug Easterly]

I remember reading somewhere someone writing that DP is "an echo chamber from hell"...I guess that is an accurate statement as if there were a shot or shots from the GK area why were the three men at the base of the steps then running back up them TO danger and why were the SS agents in the Queen Mary looking back after the shots? I mean everyone can make a case for anything in that environment that day.

[Doug Easterly]

Main was chosen I submit as that was the "main" street in the downtown Dallas business district with more high rises that office workers could use to view the presidential motorcade