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James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
Bill Chapman:
--- Quote from: Rob Caprio on July 23, 2018, 05:12:25 PM ---Your last graphic begs a question. Why didn't the motorcade simply come down Elm Street into DP?
No turns would have been needed then.
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You've been schooled on that.
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Bill Brown on July 24, 2018, 08:28:30 AM ---You'll never be able to show that the revolver in evidence was NOT the revolver taken from Oswald while inside the theater. If you could, you would have by now.
You'll never be able to show that the partial palm print was not taken from the barrel of CE 139. If you could, you would have by now.
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Your claims, your burden of proof.
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on July 24, 2018, 08:47:07 AM --- Thumb1:
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Yeah, those black smudges look totally identical, Mr. yellow blob man.
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Bill Brown on July 24, 2018, 09:28:17 PM ---This is where you're flat out wrong, but I don't expect you to understand.
For anyone else who cares...
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No surprise that you're moving the goal posts. You made claims about the magic revolver and the magic palmprint and then somehow that morphs into a claim about what you think a court would admit as evidence. Martin has explained that particular fallacy on multiple occasions.
--- Quote ---At trial, the evidence, like the shell casing found by Barbara Davis (for example), would be offered into evidence. George Doughty would be called upon to identify the shell given to him by Barbara Davis as well as to identify his initials on this shell. This would surely get the shell casing admitted into evidence.
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Is what you think would "surely" happen at a hypothetical trial supposed to be evidence of anything?
--- Quote ---Oswald's defense lawyer, one John Iacoletti, would As I was walking a' alane, I heard twa corbies makin' a mane. The tane untae the tither did say, Whaur sail we gang and dine the day, O. Whaur sail we gang and dine the day? It's in ahint yon auld fail dyke I wot there lies a new slain knight; And naebody kens that he lies there But his hawk and his hound, and his lady fair, O. But his hawk and his hound, and his lady fair. His hound is to the hunting gane His hawk to fetch the wild-fowl hame, His lady ta'en anither mate, So we may mak' our dinner swate, O. So we may mak' our dinner swate. Ye'll sit on his white hause-bane, And I'll pike oot his bonny blue e'en Wi' ae lock o' his gowden hair We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare, O. We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare. There's mony a ane for him maks mane But nane sail ken whaur he is gane O'er his white banes when they are bare The wind sail blaw for evermair, O. The wind sail blaw for evermair.' and holler that there is no chain of custody for this shell casing.
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No, a defense lawyer would put Doughty on the stand and ask him if he recovered the shell from the crime scene or if it was handed to him.
Bill Brown:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on July 24, 2018, 09:38:54 PM ---No surprise that you're moving the goal posts. You made claims about the magic revolver and the magic palmprint and then somehow that morphs into a claim about what you think a court would admit as evidence. Martin has explained that particular fallacy on multiple occasions.
Is what you think would "surely" happen at a hypothetical trial supposed to be evidence of anything?
No, a defense lawyer would put Doughty on the stand and ask him if he recovered the shell from the crime scene or if it was handed to him.
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--- Quote ---No surprise that you're moving the goal posts.
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No moving of the goal posts required to show your mistakes. You have claimed that there is no chain of custody for either of the two Davis shells.
--- Quote ---You made claims about the magic revolver and the magic palmprint and then somehow that morphs into a claim about what you think a court would admit as evidence.
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Are you saying that the two Davis shells would not be allowed into evidence?
--- Quote ---Martin has explained that particular fallacy on multiple occasions.
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LOL
--- Quote ---Is what you think would "surely" happen at a hypothetical trial supposed to be evidence of anything?
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I'm just telling you how it is. In June of '64, the FBI went to George Doughty with the four shells found at the Tippit scene. Doughty identified the Winchester-Western shell given to him by Barbara Davis and pointed out his initials on that shell.
George Doughty would be called upon to identify the shell given to him by Barbara Davis as well as to identify his initials on this shell. This would surely get the shell casing admitted into evidence.
Do you have some sort of information which would prevent this shell casing from getting admitted into evidence? Or, are you just As I was walking a' alane, I heard twa corbies makin' a mane. The tane untae the tither did say, Whaur sail we gang and dine the day, O. Whaur sail we gang and dine the day? It's in ahint yon auld fail dyke I wot there lies a new slain knight; And naebody kens that he lies there But his hawk and his hound, and his lady fair, O. But his hawk and his hound, and his lady fair. His hound is to the hunting gane His hawk to fetch the wild-fowl hame, His lady ta'en anither mate, So we may mak' our dinner swate, O. So we may mak' our dinner swate. Ye'll sit on his white hause-bane, And I'll pike oot his bonny blue e'en Wi' ae lock o' his gowden hair We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare, O. We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare. There's mony a ane for him maks mane But nane sail ken whaur he is gane O'er his white banes when they are bare The wind sail blaw for evermair, O. The wind sail blaw for evermair.'ing and hollering again?
--- Quote ---No, a defense lawyer would put Doughty on the stand and ask him if he recovered the shell from the crime scene or if it was handed to him.
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Correct. So what?
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