James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2018, 04:40:42 AM »
I know Sam Holland's VISION wasn't obstructed and he saw the SMOKE come out from the trees....that's the same smoke that Ralph Yarborough smelled at street level. You've seen the "smoke " picture with the limo still in the picture, right ?

Nonsense.

Unless of course, you can be bothered to show this "smoke picture with the limo still in the picture".

Can you?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2018, 04:46:41 AM »
Nonsense.

Unless of course, you can be bothered to show this "smoke picture with the limo still in the picture".

Can you?



The Nix film a few seconds after the assassination pans along the grassy knoll fence and I don't see no smoke?




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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2018, 04:54:44 AM »
The Nix film a few seconds after the assassination pans along the grassy knoll fence and I don't see no smoke?


JohnM

There is no picture showing smoke, as claimed by forum member Jim Brazell.

I'm sure he is mistaking a still frame from the Weigman film for a "picture".

Regardless, there is no still frame from Weigman showing smoke, either.
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2018, 05:45:15 AM »
There is not picture showing smoke, as claimed by forum member Jim Brazell.

I'm sure he is mistaking a still frame from the Weigman film for a "picture".

Regardless, there is no still frame from Weigman showing smoke, either.




Oswald's type of rifle the Italian Carcano is typical of modern firearms in that they produce little smoke and that dissipates in a couple of seconds.







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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2018, 08:39:17 PM »
I tend to agree,
Gary Mack's own observation that the shape is "moving toward the street" came from a very low quality gif and not the the SFM's copy of the film
which he could have studied if he wanted to... and I think he was mistaken.
The camera moves so much between the two frames where "the smoke" is seen, that nothing stays the same, or still.

Looks good in that one Wiegman "limo frame" but Willis6 looks better.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2018, 10:58:30 PM »
The "puff of smoke" seen in the Weigman film is just a cluster of bright fall foliage.

Absolutely.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2018, 10:47:49 PM »
As for "almost," I mean within a few degrees.

Well that clears it up.   :D

Are you sure it wasn't actually a smidgen?