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Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2018, 06:04:28 PM »
So we don't agree My focus is on the lack of critical evaluation of the facts of events like these by both the American media and public, and would challenge you to show me where any said capacity exists Do you believe something like an independent exists in the U.S? If you had any comment on the supposed requirements for sarin activation that would be useful You have every right to state your generalizations of Russia and Syria but it is simply not my point Quite the ideologue it seems How are Cuban doctors doing? Cuban life expediencies are equal to US without the billions of dollars siphoned to useless technologies and outright fraud

 Show evidence that the Russians or Syrians dropped chemical weapons at Ghouta, or any of the recent attacks for that matter The fake Ukrainian shootdown etc

Actions speak louder than words, Russians and Syrians blocked the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons, OPCW,  from visiting the location in Syria for days.

OPCW declared Syria may not have declared their total nuclear arsenal:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/syria-may-not-have-declared-entire-chemical-arsenal-opcw-says-n877526

Sarin or just chlorine, Assad gassed his own people, OPCW said so:
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Russia disputes OPCW?s Syrian chlorine attack assessment
http://www.janes.com/article/80179/russia-disputes-opcw-s-syrian-chlorine-attack-assessment

Assad clearly has been associated with terrorists including Al Qaeda, Assad has been involved in the killing of Americans and Brits. So, you seem to speak English well.

The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons? (OPCW's) confirmation that chorine was likely used in an attack in Syria on 4 February is ?a source of deep confusion?, according to a statement released by the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD).

Wow, fake Ukrainian shootdown. Wow, press in the US is not independent but Robert Parry, the Russian press is.  I certainly don't take those souls that Russians killed that lightly.  So, it's fake? Huh? Everything is fake, but what the Russians say, they couldn't get their athletes even into the Olympics under the Russian name, because Russia is so crooked, because of doping, oh, that must be a conspiracy as well?  Now, Netherlands are in the conspiracy too over MH-1, the airliner shot down, Australia too. What a conspiracy!

For all we know, the Soviets and Russian just engage in disinformation, they may be doing it with the JFK assassination with conspiracy theories. That's why a lot of what we hear is just smoke thrown out there.

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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2018, 09:22:47 PM »
Still not able to broach the question of the american medias ability to have a critique of events beyond simple parroting of official Us sources? did the media cover the supposed OPCW being denied access to Syrian sites days before the the February attack I do avoid the media like the plague so I am likely to miss things But from what I have heard there  is barely a mention of the supposed weapons inspection protocols that were in place and how Syria managed to get around that

 As for OPCW's speculation that the Syrians are somehow hiding nuclear weapons well the lessons of Iraq would have seemingly left us suspicious of official international regulatory bodies speculations on what they think could be going on

 Maybe I missed something but I am still awaiting for the positive evidence that the Syrians were responsible for Ghouta

Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2018, 04:52:57 PM »
http://www.gulf-times.com/story/594603/Jagger-says-Ortega-waging-dirty-war-in-Nicaragua

Even Bianca Jagger is fully condemning the violence of the Nicaraguan Sandinista Government, of course, Robert Parry helped "expose" the Contras, if what he reported was true. Now, that government is shooting and killing protesters.

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2018, 05:35:12 PM »
Cylinders were dropped from the air, nobody else could. Pretty compelling evidence, the Syrian regime has used barrel bombs, so screw them.  They are a terrorist nation. If one is calling Robert Parry, Consortium News, and all of those informative, antiwar.com, Alex Jones and so....then have at it.

Russia screws its own people, Putin may be the richest man in the world, it's a kleptocracy, it could demographically change to Islam as well. Rogue regime.

Russia doesn't even have a free press, whatever we hear is their state media and those as Robert Parry, Seymour Hirsch who write up on them. Russia is not a free nation. If anyone is telling lies, it's Russia like that airliner that got shot down by a missile.

Oswald was a communist. Nothing people say changes that, no solid connections to the CIA have been found.

If Russia is so great to live in, good.  Helped the Nazis start World War II, as if they were a counter weight to Nazism, they collaborated with them.



Freedom House Turns Partisan
In assessing the state of democracy in free nations, it favors the Left.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/freedom-house-left-progressive-bias-2018-report-united-states-great-britain-israel-denmark-poland/

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2018, 05:54:31 PM »
http://www.gulf-times.com/story/594603/Jagger-says-Ortega-waging-dirty-war-in-Nicaragua

Even Bianca Jagger is fully condemning the violence of the Nicaraguan Sandinista Government, of course, Robert Parry helped "expose" the Contras, if what he reported was true. Now, that government is shooting and killing protesters.

Some of what Robert Parry reported over the years was true but a great deal of it was not.

Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2018, 08:44:18 PM »
Some of what Robert Parry reported over the years was true but a great deal of it was not.

 Spoke to him in person on stage after he spoke and confronted him about his position on 9/11 In retrospect I think I kind of scared him though I did my best to be polite I kind of regret I should have taken my place as a mere audience member No real point other than I disagreed with him as well My point is in regard to the range of voices being heard on foreign policy I am no Democrat by any means and as of the last election I saw Trump as having a more cautious foreign policy towards Russia and would have voted for him if I had only the two choices

 I also question whether any categorizing clear definition along a right and left spectrum has been slowly dissolving for a couple of decades now, maybe longer I cannot find Stephen Cohen speaking about Russia for the life of me, and I never even considered him a radical Whatever the left was it is hopelessly fractured in revealing some of its now obvious hysterical underpinnings

 That being said one's political ideology should generally not be a factor in events that lend themselves to empirical examination

Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Babchenko alive ?Murdered? Russian journalist turns up alive
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2018, 02:36:44 AM »

Freedom House Turns Partisan
In assessing the state of democracy in free nations, it favors the Left.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/freedom-house-left-progressive-bias-2018-report-united-states-great-britain-israel-denmark-poland/

If you want to call Russia, China and North Korea more free than India or Ukraine, be my guest. It's good for general ball park figures.  Also, should we see how often, National Review is wrong on things? They don't have a perfect record either and I can name particular cases.

Amnesty International has skewed views; but they still produce valuable information from time to time.