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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2018, 10:53:01 PM »
How many of your medical professionals were seated right beside JFK in the limo?

Not sure what difference that makes.

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2018, 11:53:34 PM »
      STEVE - Thanks for posting that Link in an attempt to corroborate your 2 Opinions: (1) Jackie had blood/matter on her face Immediately after Z313, and (2) The Current Zapruder Film Not being Bogus.
                  With respect to (1) Jackie's face blood/matter: with there being No visual evidence of this on the Current Z film immediately following Z313 including the point where she crawls out onto the Limo trunk and then returns to the back seat, let's look at what Jackie says transpired at roughly Z313 and thereafter. "....then he slumped in my lap." "Then Clint Hill, he loved us, he was the first man IN THE CAR.... We ALL LAY DOWN in the car...."  Jackie says nothing as to being spattered at Z313 and actually did not realize any blood was on her face until she was aboard AF1 and preparing for the LBJ swearing in ceremony. Whatever the degree of blood/matter that was on her face, as well as the caked blood on her gloves and her nylons, this most likely occurred during the time period "WE ALL LAY DOWN in the car....".  A side note here: Jackie is claiming that SA Clint Hill got INSIDE the JFK Limo and "LAY DOWN" with her and JFK. I have no doubt this did happen as SA Hill was assigned to protect Jackie. Laying atop her after shots had been fired would be in line with his assignment. The "Lay Down" of SA Hill would also be consistent with the conduct of SA Youngblood when he immediately went from the front seat of the LBJ Car and dove into the back seat forcing LBJ down while Youngblood Laid atop LBJ. These 2 agents acting in this identical manner  in order to protect the person they were assigned to guard would indicate these actions = SS Protocol. Problem is, if SA Clint Hill is LAYING DOWN INSIDE the JFK Limo, (Jackie's account), who is the No Sunglasses Man photographed riding spread eagle atop the JFK Limo trunk at various points prior to reaching Parkland Hospital?
                     With respect to (2) The Current Zapruder Film Not being altered: Jackie's account of the physical actions of JFK and Gov Connally in No Way match what we see on the Current Zapruder Film. With respect to the actions of JFK she says, "Jack, he had His HAND OUT" "Then he slumped in my lap". Where on the Current Zapruder Film at any point after coming out from behind the Stemmons Sign up to Z313 do we see JFK with "His HAND OUT"?. As we all know, the Current Z Film shows JFK clutching his throat/chest with Both Hands. Regarding the actions of Gov Connally, Jackie says, "Connally GRABBING HIS ARMS saying "no no no nonono" with His FIST BEATING". Where as Z313 approaches do we see Gov. Connally "GRABBING HIS ARMS", "FIST BEATING" ???  The movements of JFK and Gov Connally as described by Jackie Kennedy corroborate the Current Z Film NOT depicting reality on 11/22/63.
 
                      Thanks again for providing that Link. Even though you inadvertently have supplied further Proof of the Current Z Film being Bogus, you also have supplied corroboration as to SA Hill having "LAY DOWN" Inside the JFK Limo as it traveled to Parkland Hospital. 54+ years after the JFK Assassination there remains much we do Not know.


 My pleasure, Storing.  Anytime I can further expose the total lunacy of you conspiracy nutters to others, I will continue to post these things .  You need psychiatric help, Storing. 

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2018, 01:03:57 AM »

 My pleasure, Storing.  Anytime I can further expose the total lunacy of you conspiracy nutters to others, I will continue to post these things .  You need psychiatric help, Storing.

        Which is correct regarding the movements of JFK and Gov Connally? (1) Jackie Kennedy's eyewitness account? (2) The Current Zapruder Film?

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2018, 06:10:01 PM »
          ALL Eyewitnesses that are subjected to trauma are Not immediately transformed into walking zombies. Some people would love to throw out All of the eyewitness accounts of the JFK assassination and rely on the Bogus JFK Assassination Images. This is a Mission Accomplished for those involved in the conspiracy along with the weary JFK Ostriches that are eager to put their head into the sand and fall fast asleep.

Eyewitnesses aren't walking zombies, but they are unreliable.  So are biased interpretations of photos though.

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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2018, 08:37:00 PM »
Eyewitnesses aren't walking zombies, but they are unreliable.  So are biased interpretations of photos though.

          You are Generalizing with your Blanket assertion above. Not ALL Eyewitnesses are "Unreliable".
          There are segments of the JFK assassination we Know Little about. All of these segments do Not contain nefarious overtones. I believe some of that which we still do Not know involves the SS simply Not wanting to reveal their Protocol. Chief Rowley's WC testimony in which he tap danced around questions regarding the 11/22/63 fire power on hand makes this obvious. To this day, Few Details are Known as to what occurred in the time frame between the JFK Limo boarding the Stemmons Fwy On-Ramp and JFK being wheeled inside Trauma Room 1. Jackie would certainly Know/Recall that She, JFK, and Clint Hill were All Laying Down Inside the Limo as it sped to Parkland Hospital. Of course, this does raise several questions: (1) WHEN did SA Hill get inside the JFK Limo and lay down? (2) WHERE did this occur? (3) Did the Limo STOP? and (4) If SA Hill is laying down inside the Limo, who is pictured riding spread eagle across the Limo trunk during its' journey to Parkland?     
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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2018, 11:41:49 PM »
          You are Generalizing with your Blanket assertion above. Not ALL Eyewitnesses are "Unreliable".

Yes, all eyewitnesses are unreliable.

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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2018, 09:18:31 PM »
Not sure what difference that makes.

Of course you don't.

Jackie had the best view of the head wound: top, behind the forehead.

Now show us images (photographs and/or film) of even one of these Parkland doctors (who claim a rear exit) actually looking closely enough at Kennedy's head to make an accurate, valid determination.

After all, you did claim ALL witnesses are unreliable. However, I would say that witness testimony backed up by film and photographic evidence would go a long way in persuading a jury that the witness is reasonably accurate.

The Zfilm backs up Jackie's closeup view. She kept looking at JFK's head throughout the impact & the brain-matter exita sequence it seems to me.
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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2018, 09:25:07 PM »
Yes, all eyewitnesses are unreliable.

Except those who support your agenda, of course...

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2018, 05:25:32 PM »
Except those who support your agenda, of course...

Nope, I meant what I said.