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Oswald's High School
W. Tracy Parnell:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 05, 2018, 02:41:54 AM --- Robert Oswald's Brother Lee
I have only seen a few pictures where it seems to be pretty clear we are looking at a different Oswald Wonder if any facial recognition experts have ever taken on the issue
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http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-hunter-photo.html
W. Tracy Parnell:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 06, 2018, 04:06:28 AM --- Thanks Rob
Here are a couple of points of interest
n January, 1953, while HARVEY and the Marguerite Oswald imposter were living in the Bronx, there are indications of CIA involvement. The House on Un-American Activites Committee (HUAC) had a file that made reference to a "Mrs. M. Oswald" in New York City that originated from a CIA Office of Security file. This CIA file contained references to 1941, Nazi's, and New Jersey. Judge John Tunheim, of the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) wrote to Henry Hyde and requested the HUAC file, but his request was denied.
In February, 1953 John Pic and his family were invited to dinner at the Oswald's apartment. This was the last time Pic would see his brother for 9 years. Nine years later, in 1962 Pic was invited to Thanksgiving Dinner at Robert Oswald's home, where he met the Russian speaking HARVEY Oswald. Pic told the Warren Commission, "the Lee Harvey Oswald I met in November of 1962 [Thanksgiving] was not the Lee Harvey Oswald I had known 10 years previous [in New York]." When the Warren Commission showed John Pic photographs of HARVEY Oswald taken in 1953, 1957, and 1963 he refused to identify these photos as his brother. Robert Oswald most certainly knew that the Russian speaking HARVEY was not his brother, because Robert had lived with both HARVEY Oswald and the Marguerite Oswald impostor at 4936 Collinwood for 6 months in 1956.
At least one source has Oswald speaking German as well, and rumored to have had a Hungarian accent or country of origin We of course know that US intelligence had been working closely with German intelligence at the closing of WW2 Could this young Oswald been part of that new collaboration?
And to digress back to the gathering DNA. One would think that the LHO two daughter's with Marina would be sympathetic to having a DNA test Robert's Oswald's offspring not so much since he apparently identified Marina's Husband as his Brother If Pic had children they might be more willing since John Pic is on the record saying it was not his Brother
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The HUAC thing is a prime example of the stuff that makes up the H&L theory. It is just something taken out of context and presented as a "fact" to amaze the gullible reader. Zero evidence that this was the historic Marguerite.
Anyone who has read John Pic's testimony in its entirety will realize that he never said the LHO who returned from Russia was not his brother. He merely did not recognize a few of the photographs that were shown to him which is not surprising since he did not see his brother for ten years. Another thing taken out of context and used to help bolster the H&L theory.
W. Tracy Parnell:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 06, 2018, 06:11:39 AM --- Robert Oswald had two children Cathy Marie and Robert Lee Edward Jr. John Pic had one Daughter born in July of 47. I believe Robert's children were born around 1960 Lee or Harvey, had two DaughtersAudery Marina "Rachel"Oswald Porter b. Oct 20/63 and June Lee Oswald b.Feb 15/63 I was thinking that even a genetic test might show if Rachel and June had markers for Easter European heritage that that alone could be significant since the Oswald name is Anglo Saxon However June and Rachel's Grandfather is listed as Nicolay Prusakov which throws a monkey wrench into that notion This would seemingly have to be Marguerite's Father Strangely Robert Oswald says he is not sure of his Mothers maiden name but assumes it was Claverie, which was her middle name
Every time you look for anything in this case there has so be some strange stuff
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Marguerite's maiden name was Claverie and the fact that Robert didn't remember it doesn't change that simple well established fact.
W. Tracy Parnell:
--- Quote from: Rob Caprio on June 07, 2018, 11:15:15 PM ---Armstrong's book puts forth evidence showing the difference between the two Marguerites. One was tall and one was short. One was very attractive and the other not so much.
During her WC testimony the short one got quite a few things wrong about LHO's past.
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http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-two-marguerites-part-1.html
Michael Walton:
--- Quote from: W. Tracy Parnell on June 09, 2018, 02:06:04 PM ---
The HUAC thing is a prime example of the stuff that makes up the H&L theory. It is just something taken out of context and presented as a "fact" to amaze the gullible reader. Zero evidence that this was the historic Marguerite.
Anyone who has read John Pic's testimony in its entirety will realize that he never said the LHO who returned from Russia was not his brother. He merely did not recognize a few of the photographs that were shown to him hwi9ch is not surprising since he did not see his brother for ten years. Another thing taken out of context and used to help bolster the H&L theory.
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I'm a CTer but do not believe the Harvey and Lee (called by some, funnily, as Hardly Lee) baloney. I'd advise other readers to go to this very detailed and long thread on another forum. You'll find many of the silly, if not crazy, beliefs about this fictional caper including (non)photo alterations, sloping shoulders, and contrast(y) photos among other things.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23677-a-couple-of-real-gems-from-the-harvey-and-lee-website/?tab=comments#comment-348449
Sadly, because of the "kinder and gentler" nature of the above forum, many people who used to vigorously debate this nonsense over there have left or been banned - Thomas Graves and myself being two of them. The whole EF site has now become a vast echo chamber with little push back there and if there is any push back, you're either warned, are not read (they have a magical Ignore button there), or banned entirely.
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