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Oswald's High School
Matt Grantham:
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I am saying the woman who testified was indeed the one and only Marguerite Claverie Oswald. According to the H&L theory, the woman who testified was the "fake" Marguerite who took the place of the original "tall beautiful" Marguerite. This woman, who worked for the CIA, took the place of the original Marguerite around 1959. My point is why didn't the friends and acquaintances of the original Marguerite come forward to say this was not the woman they knew? And as Steve asked, why didn't John Pic say this was not his mother?
IMO, researchers should be very skeptical of the H&L theory but some are not. This is apparently because the theory appeals to them on some level and they are will to suspend disbelief. But the theory is nonsense and a waste of time.
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How tall was Marguerite Claverie Oswald?
Steve Taylor:
I've only made it to pg 120 of 1000+ pages, but Armstrong offers the following about Marguerite's best friend's statement:
NOTE: The "beautiful woman with black hair" who "dressed beautifully" was certainly not the older, dumpy, heavy-set, shabbily dressed "Marguerite Oswald" imposter who was photographed in the living room of 126 Exchange in February 1954.
Following the assassination Myrtle and Julian Evans saw this woman on television. When deposed on April 7, 1964 by Warren Commission Attorney Albert Jenner, Myrtle Evans said, "When I saw her on Tv, after all of this happened, she looked so old and haggard, and I said that couldn't be Margie. Julian told the Commission, "When we saw her on television just recently, after all this happened, she looked awful. There s no other way to describe it, the change that has come over her. You wouldn't have recognized her if they hadn't told you who she was; she looked that different. Where her hair used to be black, now it's entirely gray, and she really looks old ..... shes the same age as my wife (57), but she looks about 70 now. "The Commission, understandably, did not ask either Myrtle or Julian to identify the 1954 photograph of the short, dumpy, heavy-set "Marguerite Oswald" as their friend of 25 years.
Neither Julian nor Myrtle, who had known the real Marguerite Oswald since 1935, recognized the heavy-set, shabbily-dressed woman they saw on television. They didn't realize this woman was not their friend who lived next door in New Orleans only 8 years earlier. The woman they saw on television was the "caretaker/mother" of Harvey Oswaldthe same old, dumpy, heavy-set woman who was photographed sitting in the chair of her living room at 126 Exchange Place in 1954. By 1963 this woman s appearance had changed little-she still had grey hair, still looked old, and was still dowdy and plump.
Lee's contemporaneous best friend said roughly the same:
On April 7, 1964, Ed Voebel was deposed by Warren Commission attorney Albert Jenner who asked, "Did you meet his mother?" Voebel said, "I think I met her one time, and for some reason I had a picture in my mind which was different from when I saw her in the paper after all of this happened. I didn't recognize her. She was a lot thinner. and her hair wasn't as gray. as I recall it. when I met her. Of course, this was about 8 years ago, but I can remember she had a black dress on, and she was sitting down smoking a cigarette."
That still leaves the family not speaking up. Armstrong claims Robert was a part of the cover up, but Pic and the Murrets? I will continue reading...
Matt Grantham:
Thanks Steve I remember that name and quote but could not find it Well done and thank you
People can see a picture of MCO in 1960 at the two Marguerite's page link at the Harvey and Lee site as well as the other Marguerite who is seen in 63 and 64 The difference is so remarkable I was surprised that W Tracy was even claiming this was the same woman There are indeed strange questions remaining and it seems clear that both groups of people were connected to some degree from 47 onward For instance it seems the impersonator Marguerite and Harvey rented from the real Marguerite C at San Sabo
W. Tracy Parnell:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 17, 2018, 05:07:13 AM --- How tall was Marguerite Claverie Oswald?
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No taller than 5' 4". I assume you are leading up to Armstrong's claims about height discrepancies. Here is an analysis of the issue:
http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-two-marguerites-part-1.html
W. Tracy Parnell:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 17, 2018, 07:40:43 AM ---Thanks Steve I remember that name and quote but could not find it Well done and thank you
People can see a picture of MCO in 1960 at the two Marguerite's page link at the Harvey and Lee site as well as the other Marguerite who is seen in 63 and 64 The difference is so remarkable I was surprised that W Tracy was even claiming this was the same woman There are indeed strange questions remaining and it seems clear that both groups of people were connected to some degree from 47 onward For instance it seems the impersonator Marguerite and Harvey rented from the real Marguerite C at San Sabo
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There is a difference. Its called aging and "letting yourself go." There was not a single person in the world who claimed there were two Marguerites until John Armstrong came along. Friends, family-nobody. Armstrong is taking you for a ride. As for San Saba, he is using the statement of one woman made years and years after to create the "fact" that there were two Oswalds living in two different places.
What really happened is that Marguerite bought the house in July, 1947 probably as a backup plan of sorts because she was having marital problems with Ekdahl. She rented the house out and continued to live on 8th Street in Fort Worth. In March, 1948 she moved to Willing Street in Fort Worth. In app. June of the same year she moved to San Saba where they lived for the summer. In September, she moved to Ewing Street in Fort Worth where the family lived for three years. Armstrong ignores the weight of the evidence and seizes on a witness statement or an inconsistency in the record to make his case. But the record is very clear about where the one and only Marguerite lived during this specific time frame.
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