The Truly Magical Bullet

[Matt Grantham]

I?m not an anti re-creationist, just an anti Creationist. I am meanly pointing out that the experiment you propose is very difficult.

People, at least most people, who think the curb smear was caused by a bullet, don?t think it was caused by a bullet, but by a bullet fragment.

It is impossible to predict the exact path of a bullet fragment. They are generally deflected some by the first target they strike which creates the fragments. Getting the fragment to hit a desired second target, like a melon, is a little difficult. Getting the fragment to hit precisely on the edge of the curb, just like the curb near Mr. Tague, is going to take days and days of testing, I imagine.

Getting a fragment to hit a curb that is just 3 feet behind the first target would be difficult. Getting a fragment to hit a curb that is 80 yards behind the first target, to recreate the speed the fragment would strike the curb near Mr. Tague, would be extraordinarily difficult.

I am not against trying to recreate a proposed scenario. I just hope the person who does so is not blind to other possibilities, like the lead smear being formed by one of the thousands of cars that pass by there each day.

If they try out both scenarios, I think they will find it is far easier for a car to put a lead smear precisely on the corner of a curb than a bullet fragment to do so. And far more likely.

 Bullet test not difficult

 Fragment test more difficult and far less important if bullet test is relatively significant

 Pretty sure I have already made that clear, but you keep speaking like you are explaining something to me

[Joe Elliott]

 Bullet test not difficult

 Fragment test more difficult and far less important if bullet test is relatively significant

 Pretty sure I have already made that clear, but you keep speaking like you are explaining something to me

I should think that most people who think a bullet was involved think the smear was caused by a fragment, not a bullet. After all, the curb was not, presumably, the target.

[Matt Grantham]

I should think that most people who think a bullet was involved think the smear was caused by a fragment, not a bullet. After all, the curb was not, presumably, the target.

 Yes that seems to be the case to me as well, but I don't have much to base that upon beyond just what I imagine a bullet would do to a curb

[Howard Gee]

I'm thinking the size of the curb chip is indicative that it was caused by a fragment. Most of us have seen the photo of the pen being held next to the chip and realize the chip was tiny.

But a reminder, this thread wasn't intended to be about the curb chip.

This thread offers the droolers an opportunity to explain what happened to the bullet they insist entered JFK's throat from the front.

SO FAR....CRICKETS

[Andrew Mason]

I'm thinking the size of the curb chip is indicative that it was caused by a fragment. Most of us have seen the photo of the pen being held next to the chip and realize the chip was tiny.

But a reminder, this thread wasn't intended to be about the curb chip.

This thread offers the droolers an opportunity to explain what happened to the bullet they insist entered JFK's throat from the front.

SO FAR....CRICKETS

According to the FBI examiners, and also James Underwood and Tom Dillard, there was no chip. It was a mark on the curb but there was no nick in the concrete and no concrete missing from the curb. See the FBI letter July 17, 1964(Shaneyfelt Ex. 26 and the August 12, 1964 FBI analysis report (Shaneyfelt Ex. 27).

[Jim Brunsman]

  Poor Mr. Gee. Still acting like a troll. He makes an enormous deal out of the frontal shot, but has no problem with the back shot not exiting, even though it destroys the SBT. Let Mr. SBT explain what happened to both of these shots. He's the expert, let's allow him to lecture us all on this rather baffling situation...

[Gary Craig]

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Decker_Ex_5323.pdf

ASSASSINATION Or PRESIDENT KENNEDY
Officer Buddy Walther_ Deputy Sheriff Dallas County Sheriff's Office

Date Nov 22, 1963

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"...I immediately went to the triple underpass
on Elm Street in an effort to locate possible marks left by stray bullets.
While I was looking for possible marks, some unknown person stated to
me that something had hit his face while he was parked on Main Street,
the next lane south from Elm, as the traffic had been stopped for the
parade. Upon examining the curb and pavement in this vicinity I found
where a bullet had splattered on the top edge of the curb on Main Street
which would place the direction of firing, high and behind the position
the Presidents car was in when he was shot..."

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