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Online Matt Grantham

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2018, 11:28:11 PM »
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Correct, LBJ included.


Here is a link with many pictures of LBJ, or the lake thereof during the time in question

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Another link which claims Altgens 6 occurs at Z-frame 167

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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2018, 03:02:01 AM »
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So you think the explanation provided in the Dallas newspapers years before this event was planted in anticipation of the assassination and that is more ridiculous that these red circles were a fire safety measure than a prearranged signal to LBJ that the assassination of the president was going down?  Got it.  Someone get a butterfly net while Walt is distracted.

My Dear ignoramus....During WWII  after the attack on Pearl Harbor the citizens were jumpy and worried about Japanese incendiary bombs being dropped on US cities.....Many high rise buildings had inadequate fire escapes so certain windows were designated as escape routes. Those windows were usually at the end of hallways and the windows had a large red ring place on the window pane so the fire department would know where to place their ladder in the event of a fire.

The red rings on the south face of the TSBD were only on the fifth sixth and seventh floors and they weren't in any logical unobstructed escape route.   As a matter of fact there is one of the rings seen from inside of the building and there are  boxes of books stacked hi front of the window.
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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2018, 07:41:10 AM »
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Here is a link with many pictures of LBJ, or the lake thereof during the time in question

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Another link which claims Altgens 6 occurs at Z-frame 167

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LBJ was not ducking.

Altgens 6 occurs at Z-255.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2018, 02:27:02 PM »
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My Dear ignoramus....During WWII  after the attack on Pearl Harbor the citizens were jumpy and worried about Japanese incendiary bombs being dropped on US cities.....Many high rise buildings had inadequate fire escapes so certain windows were designated as escape routes. Those windows were usually at the end of hallways and the windows had a large red ring place on the window pane so the fire department would know where to place their ladder in the event of a fire.

The red rings on the south face of the TSBD were only on the fifth sixth and seventh floors and they weren't in any logical unobstructed escape route.   As a matter of fact there is one of the rings seen from inside of the building and there are  boxes of books stacked hi front of the window.

Making progress.  So now you acknowledge that red rings were used on the windows of buildings for fire safety purposes.  Just as Gary Mack and the Dallas papers have explained. 

Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2018, 02:37:33 PM »
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Gary Mack explained it to you.  I've explained it to you.  Newspaper articles were posted explaining it to you.  A loon can't be unconvinced of their nutty pet theory.  Just to recap, Walt apparently believes these red circles were some type of signal to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen or some James Bond-type nonsense.  Imagine the narrative behind that fringe theory?

Walt apparently believes these red circles were some type of signal to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen

They were notification for LBJ...The red rings notified LBJ that everything was in place for the coup d e'tat....the evidence had been planted ...the patsy was cooperating and setting himself up.    The hit squad was waiting.....All that was needed was the signal from LBJ.

Ask yourself which is the least rational....The above.....OR.... The Magic Bullet THEORY  ???

Richie believes in magic bullets.....
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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2018, 03:23:13 PM »
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Walt apparently believes these red circles were some type of signal to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen

They were notification for LBJ...The red rings notified LBJ that everything was in place for the coup d e'tat....the evidence had been planted ...the patsy was cooperating and setting himself up.    The hit squad was waiting.....All that was needed was the signal from LBJ.

Ask yourself which is the least rational....The above.....OR.... The Magic Bullet THEORY  ???

Richie believes in magic bullets.....

So someone couldn't have just told him that?  Instead someone had to paint magic red circles on the very building from which the shots were supposed to be fired instead of any other building in Dallas?  Not suspicious or risky at all.  LOL.  And then travel back in their time machine and write a newspaper article explaining that the red circles are used for fire safety purposes.  Honestly, surely you can't really believe this nonsense.  I think many CTers take this up as a hobby and try to come up with any narrative to absolve Oswald.  They don't even have to believe it themselves.  It just needs to be a scenario they can dream up.

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2018, 03:48:36 PM »
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LBJ was not ducking.

Altgens 6 occurs at Z-255.

LBJ was ducking

Altgens occurs at Z film 167

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2018, 03:56:46 PM »
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Making progress.  So now you acknowledge that red rings were used on the windows of buildings for fire safety purposes.  Just as Gary Mack and the Dallas papers have explained.

I've always acknowledged that there was a SINGLE red ring placed in a window to serve as a notice to firemen so they would know where to place their ladder. 

Only a complete idiot would believe that multiple windows would have red rings placed on them as a signal to firemen.

However you do deserve praise for being smart enough and honest enough, to acknowledge that the red rings were a SIGNAL ...


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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2018, 05:53:39 PM »
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Walt apparently believes these red circles were some type of signal to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen

They were notification for LBJ...The red rings notified LBJ that everything was in place for the coup d e'tat....the evidence had been planted ...the patsy was cooperating and setting himself up.    The hit squad was waiting.....All that was needed was the signal from LBJ.

Ask yourself which is the least rational....The above.....OR.... The Magic Bullet THEORY  ???

Richie believes in magic bullets.....

There's nothing rational about Walt's fabrications -- they are just completely made up stories.

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Re: Was LBJ ducking before shots
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2018, 06:06:43 PM »
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So someone couldn't have just told him that?  Instead someone had to paint magic red circles on the very building from which the shots were supposed to be fired instead of any other building in Dallas?  Not suspicious or risky at all.  LOL.  And then travel back in their time machine and write a newspaper article explaining that the red circles are used for fire safety purposes.  Honestly, surely you can't really believe this nonsense.  I think many CTers take this up as a hobby and try to come up with any narrative to absolve Oswald.  They don't even have to believe it themselves.  It just needs to be a scenario they can dream up.

Duh....You really are obtuse aren't you Richie.....Do you really think that someone on the assassination team would have called out...."OK Lyndon....everything is go....  Can I give the killers the OK?"

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