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The Limo Bullet Fragments....
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 26, 2018, 06:19:35 PM --- I believe you are wrong. My belief is based on actual evidence as well aa a rational explanation based on the direction an speed speed of the gunpowder gases. What is yours based on?
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Experience and commonsense...
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on May 26, 2018, 08:40:54 PM ---Experience and commonsense...
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I prefer evidence.
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 26, 2018, 09:11:47 PM ---I prefer evidence.
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No....You prefer fantasies .... cuz it makes you feel comfortable and secure... A nasty little commie, and arch villain did it and that something you can accept.
Joe Elliott:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 24, 2018, 11:18:14 PM ---
Yarborough was interviewed by the Houston Post and attributed this quote to him in a Nov 22/63 story:
"A few instants after the shots, Yarborough said, the President's car spurted ahead at a very high rate of speed, with a Secret Service agent lying on the back of it, and beating his fist on the back of the car, as if in great despair and anger. Yarborough said he could smell gunpowder in the area of the shooting. 'I could smell powder all the way into the hospital,' he said."
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The ?smell of gunpowder? witnesses have to be considered the most unreliable of witnesses. The firing took place in the outdoors, with consist winds of 10 to 15 mph. One cannot expect anyone to smell gunpower, even if they were standing just downwind of someone firing a weapon, unless, perhaps, they were a Louisiana bloodhound.
Under some circumstances, gunpowder can be smelled. When shots are fired indoors, at an indoor firing range. Or outside, on a still day, when one is standing near the weapon being fired.
Some of the witnesses had been around gunfire before. And had smelled gunfire, under ideal conditions, outside, on a still day with little or no wind, while very near the person who had fired a gun. So, when they heard the shots on November 22, expected to smell the gun smoke. And did smell the gun smoke, in their minds.
Yarborough?s account is not to be believed, unless one thinks there was a constant gun battle all the way to the Parkland hospital several miles away over the course of several minutes.
And if Yarborough could smell the gun smoke from several miles away at the Parkland hospital, then I suppose one could smell the sixth floor from any location in Dealey Plaza. Although, of course, neither was possible.
With hundreds of witnesses at Dealey Plaza, we should expect several mistaken witnesses reporting the smell of gun smoke. It would be surprising if we had none. And a clue that this is so is that the witnesses who smelled gun smoke were far apart from each other, not concentrated at one spot, if there was a shot from somewhere that somehow caused gun smoke to be concentrated in one small area where it would be possible to smell gun smoke that was not too diluted.
Joe Elliott:
Here is more information about the smelling of gunpowder.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/smell.htm
Judging from the wide spread of the ?smell of gunpowder? witnesses, it seems obvious that one cannot use them to locate the source of the shots.
Question:
Can anyone quote some sort of gun expert, who states that gun smoke can be smelled, outdoors, even with the wind blowing 10 to 15 mph, as a result of less than a dozen rifle shots?
And can do so from 50 or more yards away if the wind is blowing in a favorable direction.
We just need one quote. Something. Anything.
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