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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #301 on: July 28, 2018, 02:53:46 PM »


Clyde Snow's "upright" angle through the neck was in reference to how the neck structure changes between a life-position and auropsy-position.

When it came to depicting the "wounding position", the HSCA always shows the neck transit ranging downward.



I amended the diagram above (showing the limousine at about Z190) to show the slope from the Oswald window to the limousine at about Z223-25.



You have to move the back wound above the neck wound to make your theory work, just like Jerry Ford

and the WC had to.



Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #302 on: July 30, 2018, 07:52:52 PM »
The difference is that Leavelle was just reinforcing the already established evidence whereas Odum was contradicting everything that had gone before.

"Already established evidence".  LOL.

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #303 on: August 01, 2018, 08:08:57 PM »
The "anatomical position" is a generic position in which the individual is imagined to be standing upright and the neck area is structurally upright. This is supposed to give a consistency to wound locations so that various autopsy reports can be read with a common body position in mind.


Generic example

The HSCA noted in Volume VII that the "anatomical position" differed from the life- or "wounding position". The neck structures changed such that the wound entry that was located perpendicular out from the T1 level (in the "anatomical position") was now above the T1 level (in the "wounding position").

Another source of confusion is that the term "autopsy position" is used interchangably to describe the "anatomical position". Kennedy at autopsy, with his head resting on a chock, had his neck structrues essentially in the life- or "wounding position". I guess the term"autopsy position" began to be used because the "anatomical position" is used at autopsy.
Huh?

Are you saying the diagrams of JFK's neck wound the HSCA published don't depict the wounds actual location?


Offline Micah Mileto

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #304 on: August 02, 2018, 05:34:02 AM »
Huh?

Are you saying the diagrams of JFK's neck wound the HSCA published don't depict the wounds actual location?



Gary, that Thomas Canning diagram actually depicts the back wound an inch of two higher than the Ida Dox diagram presented as authentic to the autopsy photographs. Very sneaky  ;D

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #305 on: August 02, 2018, 03:56:40 PM »
The standard lame excuse for this is that Odum was older and he just forgot.  But when an 83 year old Jim Leavelle recalled stuff to Dale Myers...well you can take that to the bank.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,998.msg22360.html#msg22360

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #306 on: August 02, 2018, 06:06:27 PM »
Can you point to a Zapruder film frame that shows Kennedy's neck in the anatomical position?

Can you point to a Zapruder film frame that shows Kennedy's neck in this position?


Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #307 on: August 03, 2018, 07:22:15 PM »

No.
You seem to think the HSCA should have applied (without any adjustment) the wound track shown in their "Autopsy Position" diagram to the moment Kennedy was shot.
Can you point to a Zapruder film frame that shows Kennedy's neck in the anatomical position?
"Can you point to a Zapruder film frame that shows Kennedy's neck in the anatomical position?"

Irrelevant!

Show the frame of the Z-film that shows JFK in the position he was in when actually hit by the

alleged "Magic Bullet".