Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1672 on: October 25, 2019, 04:54:21 AM »
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Can you use arguments to show me the error of my ways?

Since I'm polite and considering you're begging for a response I'll comply.

There is only 1 argument which you yourself exposed, that even the DPD clocks which rely on accuracy and were regularly calibrated could be wrong therefore how can we trust any timepiece? You've dug yourself a deep inescapable hole but keep digging because watching you self destruct is absolutely fascinating.

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« Reply #1673 on: October 25, 2019, 04:59:43 AM »
Since I'm polite and considering you're begging for a response I'll comply.

There is only 1 argument which you yourself exposed, that even the DPD clocks which rely on accuracy and were regularly calibrated could be wrong therefore how can we trust any timepiece? You've dug yourself a deep inescapable hole but keep digging because watching you self destruct is absolutely fascinating.

JohnM

Since I'm polite and considering you're begging for a response I'll comply.

Oh, what a pathetic little man you truly are...

There is only 1 argument which you yourself exposed, that even the DPD clocks which rely on accuracy and were regularly calibrated could be wrong therefore how can we trust any timepiece? You've dug yourself a deep inescapable hole but keep digging because watching you self destruct is absolutely fascinating.

Oh you poor little fool. Is this you admitting that you can not show how my Markham/Bowley/Davenport/Methodist hospital is wrong?

I did not argue that the DPD clocks were wrong. Bowles, the man in charge of them admitted they were not accurate!


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1674 on: October 25, 2019, 05:03:25 AM »
Since I'm polite and considering you're begging for a response I'll comply.

Oh, what a pathetic little man you truly are...


Hahaha, whenever you get your arse kicked out come the insults, thanks for acknowledging your loss.

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« Reply #1675 on: October 25, 2019, 05:14:49 AM »
Hahaha, whenever you get your arse kicked out come the insults, thanks for acknowledging your loss.

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So, still nothing to address the Markham/Bowley/Davenport/Methodist hospital timelime?

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« Reply #1676 on: October 25, 2019, 05:25:58 AM »

Bowles, the man in charge of them admitted they were not accurate!

So, still nothing to address the Markham... timelime?

Thanks, so again we arrive at the same conclusion that the clocks in the Dallas Police Headquarters were not accurate but somehow an unchecked clock in some random building as seen by a "screwball" is seriously good evidence? That's not very convincing.

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« Reply #1677 on: October 25, 2019, 05:44:22 AM »
Thanks, so again we arrive at the same conclusion that the clocks in the Dallas Police Headquarters were not accurate but somehow an unchecked clock in some random building as seen by a "screwball" is seriously good evidence? That's not very convincing.

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It's not the Markham timeline.... but you editing my post exposes the weakness of your case   Thumb1:

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« Reply #1678 on: October 25, 2019, 06:01:20 AM »
For anyone keeping score, here's all the Tippit times I could find and what's interesting is the spread of times. Allowing for a 15 minute buffer we see the only time which can satisfy everyone's recollection is 1:15. Can the people who specifically specified about 1:30 be so wrong and why say 1:30 and not about 1:00 PM, logically they must have known it was closer to 1:30, which we know to be true.
Btw The person who had the most reason to be aware of the time is Scoggins who was on his lunch break and if he was anything like me, "the time on your lunch break feels like 10 x the time of actually working" so Scoggins who looked for parking, left the cab, went to buy his lunch, watched the telly "I got me a coke and watched television for a few minutes, I would say 10, 12, 15 minutes" then went back to his cab, would have to be reasonably aware of the time he had left and his 1:20 guess is near perfect. Scoggins wins!

ELBERT AUSTIN, sometime after 1:00 PM

ROGER BALLEW, time?

Mr. BENAVIDES - I imagine it was about 1 o'clock.

BOWLEY I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm.

Mrs. MARY BROCK,  approximately 1:30 PM

ROBERT BROCK, approximately 1:30 PM,

JIMMY EARL BURT  time?

Mr. CALLAWAY. about 1 pm

FRANK CIMINO around 1 p.m.

Barbara Jeanette Davis shortly after 1:00 pm

Mrs. Virginia Davis, about 1:30 pm

Sam Guinyard about 1:00 pm

FRANCIS KINNETH, approximately 1:00 PM

I, L. J. Lewis time?

Mrs. MARKHAM. I wouldn't be afraid to bet it wasn't 6 or 7 minutes after 1.

PATTERSON advised that at approximately 1:30 PM

Mr.REYNOLDS.  time?

HAROLD RUSSELL  time?

Mr. SCOGGINS. Around 1:20 in the afternoon.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1679 on: October 25, 2019, 06:11:09 AM »
It's not the Markham timeline.... but you editing my post exposes the weakness of your case   Thumb1:

You're missing the point, a huge part of your evidence relies on a "screwball" who said she was catching a 1:12 bus at 1:15 and an an unsynchronised clock.
And as for your other evidence I've already shown that Bowley's watch was never shown to be accurate.
DOA doesn't mean the time the ambulance arrives.
I presented a ton of eyewitnesses who all say the time was closer to 1:30, which must be equally analysed.
The DPD time is still accurate within a reasonable margin of error.

Anyway let's not forget that these time guesses are only a small part of the evidence because;

Oswald was positively identified with a gun at the scene of the crime.
Oswald's PO Box received a revolver, the same revolver he was arrested with.
Oswald dropped shells at the scene.
The shells that were seen dropped by Oswald were an exclusive match to the revolver he was arrested with.
Nicol provided photographic evidence that one bullet in Tippit came from Oswald's revolver.
The jacket Oswald was wearing was recovered from a carpark he was seen entering.
Oswald appeared to hide outside a shoe store.
Oswald waited for the Police car to move away before he continued.
Oswald snuck into a theatre.
Oswald tried to kill more police.

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« Reply #1679 on: October 25, 2019, 06:11:09 AM »