Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Martin Weidmann]

'Circus'


MARTIN WEIDMANN
INSULT COUNT #2

Saying the circus is back in town is an insult?

If I told you you are a complete idiot, that would be an insult.

[Bill Chapman]

Saying the circus is back in town is an insult?

If I told you you are a complete idiot, that would be an insult.

'Complete idiot'


MARTIN WEIDMANN
INSULT COUNT #3

[Martin Weidmann]

If I told you  

[Bill Chapman]

If I told you  

'If I told you'
> You just did


MARTIN WEIDMANN
INSULT COUNT #5*


*Since Admin memo about competition
for next 'Weakest Link' award

[Bill Chapman]

Hate to admit I completely missed this one!

Easily the most insane claim coming from Bill Brown so far.

So, Callaway thinks the ambulance crew just happened to cruise by looking for bodies to pick up...ROFL

'Easily the most insane claim coming from Bill Brown so far.'


TESTIMONY OF TED CALLAWAY
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/callaway1.htm

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CALLAWAY: THEN, AFTER
I HELPED LOAD OFFICER
TIPPIT IN THE AMBULANCE..
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ROLF
 

[Bill Chapman]

Absolutely.

Please refer to quoted part by Weidmann.

You show me

[Bill Chapman]

No potty training on the forum.

BTW, your quote was incomplete.

Get a grip.

'No potty training on the forum'
No sh*tting your pants on the forum: Be a man and stop passing the buck to others.

BTW, my quote addresses the fact that Callaway helped put Tippit into the ambulance.
Yet you joke about Callaway helping to get Tippit to hospital.

WTF is wrong with you people...

[Bill Brown]

You are aware that Callaway helped load the body into the ambulance BEFORE making his call on the patrol car radio.  Right?  There's your "coffee break".

And you want to debate this stuff live?  Really?

Now you are getting beyond ridiculous. Even Callaway disagrees!

Mr. CALLAWAY. I saw a squad car, and by that time there was four or five people that had gathered, a couple of cars had stopped. Then I saw--I went on up to the squad car and saw the police officer lying in the street. I see he had been shot in the head. So the first thing I did, I ran over to the squad car. I didn't know whether anybody reported it or not. So I got on the police radio and called them, and told them a man had been shot, told them the location, I thought the officer was dead. They said we know about it, stay off the air, so I went back.
By this time an ambulance was coming. The officer was laying on his left side, his pistol was underneath him. I kind of rolled him over and took his gun out from under him. The people wonder whether he ever got his pistol out of his holster. He did.
Mr. BALL. The pistol was out of the holster?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir; out of the holster, and it was unsnapped. It was on his right side. He was laying with the gun under him.
Mr. BALL. What did you do?
Mr. CALLAWAY. I picked the gun up and laid it on the hood of the squad car, and then someone put it in the front seat of the squad car. Then after I helped load Officer Tippit in the ambulance, I got the gun out of the car and told this cabdriver, I said, "You saw the guy didn't you?" He said, yes.

And you want to debate this stuff live?  Really?

No I want to debate what actually happened, not what you make up in a vain attempt to save your ass.

Debating you is actually very easy. It's actually so easy that I can even tell you in advance how I can bring you down with very little effort at all. Your entire narrative is based on the dubious assumption that the DPD recordings and time stamps are 100% correct. That's all you've really got. So, all I need to do is demonstrate conclusively, by a multitude of discrepancies, that the time line provided by the DPD recording not only is not correct but simply can not be correct. The fact alone that you have recently been all over the place about the time Benavides needed to work the mic in the patrol car, and the fact that you can't even say with any kind of certainty how much time Callaway needed to get to the scene after hearing the shots and call the DPD operator is going to destroy you. It's a simple as that. But it needs to be a live, face to face, because you have shown here, over and over again, that you will change your story whenever you think it's needed. In a live debate I will not let you do that. Your biggest weakness is your misguided confidence in your own alibity to think up enough BS to get out of the mess you've already created.   

You really are pissed off with yourself for making such a mess of your own narrative, aren't you?
Understandable, I would be pissed off too, but I wouldn't start making up my own little fairytales.

Now, how about that "coffee break". Got another explanation?

Wow.

All of that yada yada yada and you still don't know what you're talking about.

By the time Callaway testified in 1964, he was slightly off in the order of events, regarding loading the body into the ambulance and reporting the shooting to the police dispatcher.

All you really have to do is study the police tapes.

602 is the Kinsley/Butler ambulance.  As they pulled away from the scene with Tippit's body, they made an attempt to get hold of the police dispatcher to notify the dispatcher that they were en route to Methodist Hospital.

Murray Jackson (the dispatcher) didn't hear their attempt because at the same time, Callaway (after helping load the body into the ambulance) then went over to the patrol car radio, grabbed the mic and reported: "Hello, Hello, Hello.  This police officer's just shot.  I think he's dead."

Callaway was told by the dispatcher that  the police had the information and to remain off the air.

When Callaway (during his testimony) said "By this time, an ambulance was coming", he was correct.  Another ambulance (605) had been dispatched to the scene but the first ambulance (602) had already left for Methodist with the body.

I wouldn't really expect you to know any of this because (besides the sad reality that you're only interested in scoring points) it requires some work and maybe more importantly, an understanding of the big picture after having read EVERYTHING (as opposed to just Callaway's testimony).  But, you haven't read EVERYTHING, only what you feel works for you at the moment.

Get a clue.


http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/D%20Disk/Dallas%20Police%20Department/Dallas%20Police%20Department%20Records/Volume%2004/Item%2001.pdf