Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #917 on: March 12, 2019, 07:02:46 PM »
Some people think it?s a big deal not to make false claims about the case. Pity that you don?t
>>> Lets see a specific example. Some people have to be on the scene at every turn; otherwise everything is faked, planted or altered.

If the puck was evidence in a murder case that relied on a solid chain of custody for its provenance, then maybe it would matter. What if a spectator threw the puck out on the ice and you scored off it?
>>> You missed my point (melee on ice/melee in TT).

Actually you missed the point.  That was a specific example.  Mitch claimed, "Carroll testified that he seized the weapon from McDonald's hand during the scuffle, which McDonald's testimony corroborates."

McDonald testimony does not corroborate Carroll seizing a weapon from him.  The claim is false.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #918 on: March 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM »
Why?  Because otherwise your guess automatically wins?

My dad could beat up your dad

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #919 on: March 12, 2019, 10:17:05 PM »
Actually you missed the point.  That was a specific example.  Mitch claimed, "Carroll testified that he seized the weapon from McDonald's hand during the scuffle, which McDonald's testimony corroborates."

McDonald testimony does not corroborate Carroll seizing a weapon from him.  The claim is false.

I'm not automatically going to take your word on that.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #920 on: March 12, 2019, 10:43:09 PM »
My dad could beat up your dad

He should talk to my dad

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #921 on: March 12, 2019, 10:56:08 PM »
My dad could beat up your dad

No doubt, true.  My dad has stage 5 kidney disease and is on dialysis.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #922 on: March 12, 2019, 11:03:43 PM »
I'm not automatically going to take your word on that.

My mistake.  What I meant to say is that Mitch's claim that Carroll testified that he seized the weapon from McDonald's hand is incorrect.

Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir; and then when I got up close enough, I saw a pistol pointing at me so I reached and grabbed the pistol and jerked the pistol away and stuck it In my belt, and then I grabbed Oswald.
Mr. BALL. Who had hold of that pistol at that time?
Mr. CARROLL. I don't know, sir. I just saw the pistol pointing at me and I grabbed it and jerked it away from whoever had it and that's all, and by that time then the handcuffs were put on Oswald.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #923 on: March 13, 2019, 12:41:55 AM »
He should talk to my dad

I'm truly sad to hear about your father, John. My condolences.

My dad v dad thing was actually what us kids used to chirp at each other. In a kind of nyah-nyah, schoolyard sense. In my dad's case it was true, as he was 6'5" with arms the size of Oak trees... a veritable Paul Bunyon.

My dad died in 1998. Had he never smoked, he might have lived a few years longer, or at least healthier.
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