Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Walt Cakebread]

That's an argument I'd like to see the substance of
though based on what you provided so far; I don't expect much

Billy Bob's argument is based on what he wishes were true...... He wishes that Dom Benavides hadn't succinctly  stated  that he clearly saw the killer's face from about 15 or 20 feet away.  And Dom Benavides also saw the back of the killer's head and he noticed that he had his hair cut in an unusual fashion.  Benavides noticed that the killer's haircut made the back of his head appear to be flat and the hair was squared off at the bottom.  ( back in the day, that haircut was called a "Geromimo cut", like Michael Ansara wore in the old TV series.)  Lee Oswald did not have a "Geromino cut".

 

[Tim Nickerson]

Bump for Bill Brown...

Now is your chance to impress some newbies.

Q-numbers of the Davis shells, coming right up?

Barbara Davis -- Q76

Virginia Davis -- Q75

How's that? Pretty impressive, eh?

[Zeon Mason]

from WC testimony of Mrs Barbara Jeanette Davis:

Did you identify the man in the lineup before your sister-in-law?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. Before your sister-in-law?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir; I was the first one.
Mr. DULLES. All right.

from WC testimony of Mrs Charlie Virginia Davis:

Mr. BELIN. Now you identified someone in that lineup?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Did you hear your sister-in-law identify him first, or not?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; I identified him first.
Mr. BELIN. Where was your sister when you identified him?
Mrs. DAVIS. She was sitting right next to me.


There is similar contradiction about whether the screen door was open or closed.

[Tim Nickerson]

What a shame you beat him to it.

I wonder if he'll agree as Barnes told Ball he got Q-75 from Poe...

Barnes: I believe it was Q-74 and Q-75.

"I believe" is not a positive identification. On April 7, 1964, Barnes clearly was not sure.  On June 15, 1964, he was again shown the four shells and he was then able to identify his markings on Q-74 and Q-77. C.N. Dhority positively identified Q-75 as the shell that he had received from Virginia Davis.

[Walt Cakebread]

That's odd: Barnes improved but Poe went blind and couldn't identify anything to the FBI, problem solved!

Oh, Barbara Davis, in her affidavit, forgot to mention the shell she found (Q-76) but said she handed over the shell to Dhority that Virginia found...what a mess.

None of the marks allegedly identified were documented in the FBI report except for Poe ("J.M.P.") who could not identify his shells, and removing Poe from the equation disconnects the chain of possession for the alleged Benavides shells.

Oh, Barbara Davis, in her affidavit, forgot to mention the shell she found (Q-76) but said she handed over the shell to Dhority that Virginia found...what a mess.

Yes..... a mess!   But we wouldn't have this mess if the killer had been using the .38 Smith & Wesson that allegedly was in Lee Oswald's possession at the theater.   Because the S&W ejects all of the spent shells at the same time.   Therefore if the killer had been using a S&W all of the spent shells would have been found on the ground in close proximity to each other.  The fact that the spent shells were found widely distributed indicates that they were extracted separately and discarded one at a time.  And that's exactly what witnesses reported..... The killer walked away and extracted one spent shell at a time....

Obviously the killer was not using a Smith and Wesson.......and he was NOT  Lee Oswald.

[John Iacoletti]

Where is it that he changes his story?

Nowhere.  That video is so full of fail.  Must be the work of "Mytton".

[John Iacoletti]

Barnes: I believe it was Q-74 and Q-75.

"I believe" is not a positive identification. On April 7, 1964, Barnes clearly was not sure.  On June 15, 1964, he was again shown the four shells and he was then able to identify his markings on Q-74 and Q-77. C.N. Dhority positively identified Q-75 as the shell that he had received from Virginia Davis.

Questions:

- Was Barnes shown all four shells on April 7?

- Did his initials become more visible between April and June?

- Was he under oath on June 15?

[Zeon Mason]

God catch, Zeon.

There is similar contradiction about whether the screen door was open or closed.

What door was that again?

J. Davis affidavit:
I put on my shoes and went to the door and I saw this man walking across my front yard unloading a gun.

V. Davis affidavit:
We heard a shot and then another shot and ran to the side door at Patton Street.

WC testimony from  Barbara Jeanette Davis:


Mr. BALL. You were lying on the bed. What did you do?
Mrs. DAVIS. I got up, put my shoes on to see what it was.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever go outdoors?
Mrs. DAVIS. At first, I didn't.
Mr. BALL. When you went to the door, did you open the door?
Mrs. DAVIS. I opened the door and held the screen opened.
Mr. BALL. What did you see?
Mrs. DAVIS. Mrs. Markham standing across the street over there, and she was standing over there and the man was coming across the yard.
Mr. BALL. A man was coming across what yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. My yard.


WC Testimony from Mrs Charlie Virginia Davis:

Mr. BELIN. Well, let me see if I understand your statement now. You went to the front door after you heard the second shot?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got to the front door? Did you open the front door, or not?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; we just looked through the front door.
Mr. BELIN. You looked through the front door?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Was there a screen door on it or not?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was a screen door.
Mr. BELIN. Were you looking through the screen door, or was the screen door partially open, if you remember.
Mrs. DAVIS. It was closed. We was looking through it.
Mr. BELIN. You were looking through the screen door?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.