Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2709 on: May 12, 2025, 02:34:19 PM »
Here's Michel Gagne's characterization of the conspiracy Left's view of Oswald. I think this is mostly correct but instead of the "wealthy establishment" it was, in this view of the assassination, the "Cold War anti-communists", the "national security state", the McCarthyites that used Oswald. They say either he was pretending to be a leftist (this is the Garrisonite claim) or he was a leftist victim. The conspiracy Right, it seems to me, doesn't have this view of him. Although what the MAGA right thinks is increasingly a mystery.

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2710 on: May 12, 2025, 02:36:01 PM »
:D Like I said, NO reason to believe that rifle was ever broken down and put into that bag.

Mr. BALL - The dark bag is Commission Exhibit No. 142. When you were shown this bag, do you recall whether or not you told the officers who showed you the bag--did you tell them whether you thought it was or was not about the same length as the bag you saw on the back seat?

Mr. FRAZIER - I told them that as far as the length there, I told them that was entirely too long.


Huh? How does 30 some inches become over 44 inches, Frazier's size estimates are not worth the paper they're written on, the fact that both Linnie and Wesley saw a long brown package that was later discovered with Oswald's prints and perfectly fitted the rifle is only the evidence that counts.
Actual physical evidence always, always trumps people's memories and Frazier repeatedly told the commission that he never payed much attention to the bag, sorry Capasse but that's all folks!

Q: What kind of rifle did you use in the Service?
A: An M14.
Q: Approximately how long was the M14 that you used?
A: I believe the correct length is 30 some odd inches long?
Q: 30 something inches long?
A: Yes.
Q: Did you ever break that rifle down?
A: Yes, sir, I broke it down many times.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb3.htm



Oswald's prints on the bag.



Oswald only brought his lunch to work! Hilarious!



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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2711 on: May 12, 2025, 02:59:00 PM »
Any scratches found were made by the curtain rods anyway, John. You know the routine.

The leftwing conspiracists seem to have, unlike the rightwingers, some affinity towards Oswald, some need to defend him, a kinship. My guess is that they view him as "on our side" and a victim of the rightwing Cold War militarists. A sort of a leftwing version of the Jewish Alfred Dreyfuss. They have a need to defend him. I don't see that with the rightwing conspiracists.

I think a lot of CT's identify with Oswald, the vast majority of CT's seem to be loners, arrogant, argumentative, hate authority, lie when necessary, paranoid, essentially all the characteristics that personified Oswald and I also think that most CT's genuinely believe that Oswald is innocent and that some day they may be just as "innocent" and accused of a heinous crime, so they feel an overpowering need to defend Oswald because one day they could be the next patsy!

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Online Michael Capasse

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2712 on: May 12, 2025, 03:31:43 PM »


Q: What kind of rifle did you use in the Service?
A: An M14.
Q: Approximately how long was the M14 that you used?
A: I believe the correct length is 30 some odd inches long?
Q: 30 something inches long?
A: Yes.
Q: Did you ever break that rifle down?
A: Yes, sir, I broke it down many times.



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Why are you arguing the size of a rifle Frazier used in the service?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2713 on: May 15, 2025, 08:28:08 PM »
Take your cop-hating, defense attorney wannabe BS: down the road.

I was asking questions.  Apparently you have no answer.

Why don't you talking your Oswald-hating, sleazy prosecutor wannabe  BS: down the road instead?

If you're going to "just ask questions", then at least try to make them somewhat relevant.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2714 on: May 15, 2025, 08:31:47 PM »
I can understand why you won't confront the issue, but it's extremely relevant and crucial to our understanding of this entire event, why would Oswald make an unusual midweek trip to retrieve a specific item and then suddenly leave immediately after the assassination, and in Oswald's unexplained haste to remove himself from the scene of the crime, he absentmindedly leaves the obviously very important item at work?
But perhaps his real worry was to get the the rooming house as quickly as possible and retrieve his revolver and then scoot over to the Texas Theatre so he wouldn't miss a minute of two World War Two movies? Yeah, that must be it!

"extremely relevant and crucial". LOL
"unexplained haste to remove himself from the scene of the crime".  LOL
"obviously very important item".  LOL
"retrieve his revolver".  LOL

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2715 on: May 15, 2025, 08:34:19 PM »
BTW the most powerful evidence for the bag carrying the rifle is the size of the bag that perfectly fits the rifle, and this is a subject that is always avoided by CT's, I wonder why??

It "perfectly fits" so well, that not only do you have to assume a "bag" that was not even the same package that Frazier saw Oswald carry, but you also have to contrive a "disassembly" for which there is ZERO evidence.