Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #245 on: May 29, 2018, 04:33:47 PM »
There was only one witness to Tippit's killing at all:  the unreliable Helen Markham.

Really???.....  Do you recall that Domingo Benavides DESCRIBED the shooting...How could he do that if he didn't witness the shooting???    "I saw the officer start to walk to the front of his car and "this other man shot him"

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #246 on: May 29, 2018, 06:07:32 PM »
Really???.....  Do you recall that Domingo Benavides DESCRIBED the shooting...How could he do that if he didn't witness the shooting???    "I saw the officer start to walk to the front of his car and "this other man shot him"

He was an earwitness, but not an eyewitness.  He was ducking down in his car when Tippit was shot.  He didn't see the shooting.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #247 on: May 29, 2018, 07:08:00 PM »
He was an earwitness, but not an eyewitness.  He was ducking down in his car when Tippit was shot.  He didn't see the shooting.

BS!!!

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #248 on: May 29, 2018, 07:22:02 PM »
BS!!!

Benvenides to the WC.
"Mr. BENAVIDES - The other man was standing to the right side of the car, riders side of the car, and was standing right in front of the windshield on the right front fender. And then I heard the shot. Actually I wasn't looking for anything like that, so I heard the shot, and I just turned into the curb. Looked around to miss a car, I think.
And then I pulled up to the curb, hitting the curb, and I ducked down, and then I heard two more shots.
Mr. BELIN - How many shots did you hear all told?

Mr. BENAVIDES - I heard three shots.
Mr. BELIN - You heard three shots?
Mr. BENAVIDES - Yes, sir, "

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #249 on: May 29, 2018, 07:25:22 PM »
Either way, he was a mediocre witness.
Upon reviewing Benavides testimony ...
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/benavide.htm
 David Belin spent the entire interview coaching, coaxing, nudging and prodding him to identify Oswald.
Especially after he stated...
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Mr. BENAVIDES - I then pulled on up and I seen this officer standing by the door. The door was open to the car, and I was pretty close to him, and I seen Oswald, or the man that shot him, standing on the other side of the car.
"Was pretty close" ?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #250 on: May 29, 2018, 09:12:03 PM »
Either way, he was a mediocre witness.
Upon reviewing Benavides testimony ...
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/benavide.htm
 David Belin spent the entire interview coaching, coaxing, nudging and prodding him to identify Oswald.
Especially after he stated..."Was pretty close" ?

Mr. BENAVIDES - I then pulled on up and I seen this officer standing by the door. The door was open to the car, and I was pretty close to him, and I seen Oswald, or the man that shot him, standing on the other side of the car.

I seen Oswald, or the man that shot him, standing on the other side of the car.

This written statement does not accurately reflect the inflection in Benavides voice as he said that...He said "Oswald" and then quickly changed that to "or...  the man that shot him".  IOW... Benavides knew that Oswald was NOT the man.

And he didn't duck down until the shooting sarted ( why would he???)  So Benavides DID see the murder.

PS   All of Tippit's wounds were inflicted before he fell.....So the shots were very rapid.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #251 on: May 29, 2018, 11:07:08 PM »
This written statement does not accurately reflect the inflection in Benavides voice as he said that.

You mean you've heard a recording of his testimony?

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And he didn't duck down until the shooting sarted ( why would he???)  So Benavides DID see the murder.

He said that he heard a shot, then ducked down, then heard 2 more shots, then looked up.  Is this another case where your imagination trumps what a witness actually said?