Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2114 on: May 11, 2021, 09:52:54 PM »
So no quote of mine saying that Bowley arrived at 1:17?


T.F. Bowley arrives at the scene, goes to Tippit's body and, realizing there is nothing he can do for the officer, takes the mic from Benavides and reports the shooting at 1:17.  This is the first time dispatcher Murray Jackson hears of the shooting.

Bowley said in his affidavit that when he arrived at the scene he looked at his watch and it said 1:10 PM. By having him arrive at about 1:17, you are basically claiming that his watch was wrong by 7 minutes. This is just plain silly considering the fact that he was en route to pick up his wife from work and had just picked up his daughter from school. School bells tend to ring on time, yet somehow Bowley didn't notice that his watch was off by 7 minutes? Really?


Where in this exchange (because that's where you falsely claimed I misrepresented you) did I claim that you said "Bowley arrived at 1:17".

What I said was;

Bowley said in his affidavit that when he arrived at the scene he looked at his watch and it said 1:10 PM. By having him arrive at about 1:17, you are basically claiming that his watch was wrong by 7 minutes.

The difference is easy to understand. I'm sorry that you seem to be struggling to understand. Do you really have so much ego that you actually thought that by using the word "you" I was actually talking to you and not in general?

And then there is something else. Bowley said that he looked at his watch when he arrived at the scene and it said 1:10. With that in mind, let's not forget that at around 47:40 in your interview you said that Bowley's watch "was probably slow by five minutes or something like that", which implies that he actually arrived at the scene at around 1:15. But how can that be, when you have Benavides starting to key the mic of the patrol car at 1:16?


Domingo Benavides begins to key the mic of the patrol car radio at 1:16.  This keying of the mic would go on for about a minute and a half.


Are we supposed to believe that Bowley arrived a minute or so before Benavides started keying the mic and that he did nothing about it for a minute or a minute and a half, before taking the mic from Benavides?

You most likely won't (for obvious reasons) but why not simply tell us at what time you (now) believe Bowley arrived, because none of this is making any sense.

I've said this once before; if you write your replies less vague people might better understand what it is that you are actually saying, but I seriously doubt you will comply with that request because your replies are basically intended to provoke petty little discussions like this. After all why discuss the actual narrative when you can play around discussing everything else but the narrative and make up your own stuff as you go along.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2115 on: May 11, 2021, 10:17:33 PM »
If you'd learn the basics, you wouldn't have to be corrected on things like this.  And I'll correct your errors whether the correction supports my position or not, in the interest of accuracy.

in the interest of accuracy.

Thanks for reminding me. You still have not told me where in his testimony "McWatters testified that Oswald got on the bus". Why is that?

And where on the internet can I find the proof that the Nash couple actually saw the time stamped slip for the ambulance call at the Funeral home?

And earlier in our conversations you objected to me saying that you had said that Benavides took 1,5 to 2 minutes to get the mic of the police car to work. I knew I had heard or read it somewhere, but when you reduced it to 1 minute, I just gave it no other thought and let the matter rest. Until yesterday when I listened to a part of your interview again and clearly heard you say that Benavides took 1,5 to 2 minutes to get the police mic to work. Now suddenly I see you claiming here again that


Domingo Benavides begins to key the mic of the patrol car radio at 1:16.  This keying of the mic would go on for about a minute and a half.


So "in the interest of accuracy" would you please make up your mind and tell us if it was 1 minute, 1,5 minute or 2 minutes?

And please also tell us when Benadives actually started keying the mic. In the quote above you say he starts at 1:16 but at around 42:30 in your interview you said he started keying the mic at 1:15. So, which one is it? 1:15 or 1:16?

You can not expect accuracy from others and not be accurate yourself.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2116 on: May 11, 2021, 10:27:24 PM »
Why didn't Bowley tell Callaway the incident had already been reported by him using the radio in Tippit's car?

In the alternate reality that Bill Brown is desperately trying to create, that would be a fair and justified question.

However, in the real world, the evidence points to Callaway arriving 3 minutes after hearing the shots and just after Bowley had used the radio for his 46 seconds long call. If he and Bowley talked it was probably after Callaway's call, when they were loading Tippit into the ambulance.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2117 on: May 11, 2021, 11:54:04 PM »
Where in this exchange (because that's where you falsely claimed I misrepresented you) did I claim that you said "Bowley arrived at 1:17".

What I said was;

Bowley said in his affidavit that when he arrived at the scene he looked at his watch and it said 1:10 PM. By having him arrive at about 1:17, you are basically claiming that his watch was wrong by 7 minutes.

The difference is easy to understand. I'm sorry that you seem to be struggling to understand. Do you really have so much ego that you actually thought that by using the word "you" I was actually talking to you and not in general?

You most likely won't (for obvious reasons) but why not simply tell us at what time you (now) believe Bowley arrived, so that we can determine by how much you are actually claiming his watch was wrong?

I've said this once before; if you write your replies less vague people might better understand what it is that you are actually saying, but I seriously doubt you will comply with that request because your replies are basically intended to provoke petty little discussions like this. After all why discuss the actual narrative when you can play around discussing everything else but the narrative and make up your own stuff as you go along.

Do you really have so much ego that you actually thought that by using the word "you" I was actually talking to you and not in general?

I thought you were talking to BillB
Pretty sure, in fact: Addressing Biil directly with 'you' while posting to Bill in the first-person was my first clue.


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2118 on: May 12, 2021, 12:00:36 AM »
Do you really have so much ego that you actually thought that by using the word "you" I was actually talking to you and not in general?

I thought you were talking to BillB
Pretty sure, in fact: Using 'you' while posting to Bill in the first-person was my first clue.

Hey the circus is back in town... Goody

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2119 on: May 12, 2021, 12:28:37 AM »
Hey the circus is back in town... Goody

'Circus'

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2120 on: May 12, 2021, 12:32:17 AM »
'Circus'

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Saying the circus is back in town is an insult?

If I told you you are a complete idiot, that would be an insult.

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