Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Online Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2107 on: May 11, 2021, 08:33:56 PM »
But even if true, Oswald running down Patton one block and Callaway running the same block the opposite direction doesn't take more than three minutes, which is exactly period of time you said previously, when you had Callaway at the patrol car making his call three minutes after the shots. Now you've got Callaway arriving at the scene at 1:17 (probably to keep alive the three minute claim) or 1:18, and you still have him at the patrol car to make his radio call at 1:19 or 1:20. So, are we to assume that Callaway took a coffee break [= sarcasm] between arriving at the scene and making his call?

You are aware that Callaway helped load the body into the ambulance BEFORE making his call on the patrol car radio.  Right?  There's your "coffee break".

And you want to debate this stuff live?  Really?

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« Reply #2108 on: May 11, 2021, 09:15:22 PM »
Unless you can quote me saying that Bowley "arrived at around 1:17", then you're misrepresenting my position, yes.  Why do you do this continually?

More evasion and back to playing silly games again. You must really be desperate to salvage the already sunken ship that you call a narrative.

How in the world can I misrepresent your position, when you keep on being extremely vague about what your position is and actually refuse to say, when asked, what your position is?

But, I'll play along....

Bowley did not arrive at around 1:17? Do tell....
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« Reply #2109 on: May 11, 2021, 09:25:58 PM »
More evasion and back to playing silly games again. You must really be desperate to salvage the already sunken ship that you call a narrative.

But, I'll play along....

Bowley did not arrive at around 1:17? Do tell....

So no quote of mine saying that Bowley arrived at 1:17?

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« Reply #2110 on: May 11, 2021, 09:28:11 PM »
No. 

She doesn't say that at all.

And your cite doesn't support that at all.

Why are CT's like you always the ones putting words into the mouths of witnesses (instead of LNers)?

Episode 2 of a desperate rescue mission.... Hilarious

This is what Markham said in her testimony;

Mr. BALL. You know what time you usually get your bus, don't you?
Mrs. MARKHAM. 1:15.


Did she used the exact words; "catched her regular bus at 1:15". No she didn't, but what the hell do you think the above quote means?
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2111 on: May 11, 2021, 09:31:41 PM »
But you said this (below) which is pretty much the same thing (unless you now try to retract your own words):

Now who is misrepresenting who?

Nonsense.  "Markham herself" never said anything about a 1:12 bus or a 1:22 bus.  Therefore, the reality is that she could be referring to either one of them.  You don't have the right to state automatically (try as you might) that she was referring to the 1:12 bus.

I replied with a question;

But you have the right to state automatically that she was catching the 1:22 bus, right?

Talk about nonsense.

She said she left her home at 1:06 / 1:07 and there is nothing in her statements anywhere that contradicts that. The distance from her home to the bus stop at Jefferson was no more than 5 minutes. Waiting for the 1:22 bus would have her waiting at the bus stop for 10 minutes. Highly unlikely. Even less so as this was her daily routine.

There are more holes in your story than in Swiss cheese, which is why you constantly need to change your story.


Why don't you just stop playing these pathetic games? Do you really think you are fooling anybody?
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2112 on: May 11, 2021, 09:35:09 PM »
If you'd learn the basics, you wouldn't have to be corrected on things like this.  And I'll correct your errors whether the correction supports my position or not, in the interest of accuracy.

Pitiful. A 5 year old child plays these silly games.

Episode 3 of a desperate rescue mission is clearly trying to divert attention away from the complete failure of your narrative.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2113 on: May 11, 2021, 09:41:39 PM »
You are aware that Callaway helped load the body into the ambulance BEFORE making his call on the patrol car radio.  Right?  There's your "coffee break".

And you want to debate this stuff live?  Really?

Now you are getting beyond ridiculous. Even Callaway disagrees!

Mr. CALLAWAY. I saw a squad car, and by that time there was four or five people that had gathered, a couple of cars had stopped. Then I saw--I went on up to the squad car and saw the police officer lying in the street. I see he had been shot in the head. So the first thing I did, I ran over to the squad car. I didn't know whether anybody reported it or not. So I got on the police radio and called them, and told them a man had been shot, told them the location, I thought the officer was dead. They said we know about it, stay off the air, so I went back.
By this time an ambulance was coming. The officer was laying on his left side, his pistol was underneath him. I kind of rolled him over and took his gun out from under him. The people wonder whether he ever got his pistol out of his holster. He did.
Mr. BALL. The pistol was out of the holster?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir; out of the holster, and it was unsnapped. It was on his right side. He was laying with the gun under him.
Mr. BALL. What did you do?
Mr. CALLAWAY. I picked the gun up and laid it on the hood of the squad car, and then someone put it in the front seat of the squad car. Then after I helped load Officer Tippit in the ambulance, I got the gun out of the car and told this cabdriver, I said, "You saw the guy didn't you?" He said, yes.

And you want to debate this stuff live?  Really?

No I want to debate what actually happened, not what you make up in a vain attempt to save your ass.

Debating you is actually very easy. It's actually so easy that I can even tell you in advance how I can bring you down with very little effort at all. Your entire narrative is based on the dubious assumption that the DPD recordings and time stamps are 100% correct. That's all you've really got. So, all I need to do is demonstrate conclusively, by a multitude of discrepancies, that the time line provided by the DPD recording not only is not correct but simply can not be correct. The fact alone that you have recently been all over the place about the time Benavides needed to work the mic in the patrol car, and the fact that you can't even say with any kind of certainty how much time Callaway needed to get to the scene after hearing the shots and call the DPD operator is going to destroy you. It's a simple as that. But it needs to be a live, face to face, because you have shown here, over and over again, that you will change your story whenever you think it's needed. In a live debate I will not let you do that. Your biggest weakness is your misguided confidence in your own alibity to think up enough BS to get out of the mess you've already created.   

You really are pissed off with yourself for making such a mess of your own narrative, aren't you?
Understandable, I would be pissed off too, but I wouldn't start making up my own little fairytales.

Now, how about that "coffee break". Got another explanation?
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